Zoë Grünewald

You know, they need to try shifting to the right to see just how fundamentally it will not work because you can't out-Farage Farage. The last time the Tories suffered a similar loss was in 1997, and it took 13 years and four different leaders to return to power. Now, historical comparisons aren't always useful, but

It does take a long time to rebuild, especially when the Conservatives had such a trouncing and they have such a poor economic record. You know, the economy was the Tories' strength. They trashed that. So you have to really ask why anyone would return to the Conservatives. I think Badenoch will eventually be out. I don't think she'll lead the Conservatives into the next election.

It does take a long time to rebuild, especially when the Conservatives had such a trouncing and they have such a poor economic record. You know, the economy was the Tories' strength. They trashed that. So you have to really ask why anyone would return to the Conservatives. I think Badenoch will eventually be out. I don't think she'll lead the Conservatives into the next election.

I think the Conservative Party would have a better chance with James Cleverley, and I think that was the fear in Labour circles, was actually he would win the leadership election and they would have a much tighter race. The idea that Badenoch, who is just known for being divisive, you know, she could start a fight in an empty room, is the person to unite the Conservative Party...

I think the Conservative Party would have a better chance with James Cleverley, and I think that was the fear in Labour circles, was actually he would win the leadership election and they would have a much tighter race. The idea that Badenoch, who is just known for being divisive, you know, she could start a fight in an empty room, is the person to unite the Conservative Party...

And bring the public back. It's just, I don't know what the party was thinking. But then again, they weren't really thinking that because out of 121 Tory MPs, only 42 backed her. You know, that wasn't a majority. So I don't think she'll last. I don't know why she hasn't suggested any substantial policy yet. I think that's a mistake because she's letting Nigel Farage outflank her on the right.

And bring the public back. It's just, I don't know what the party was thinking. But then again, they weren't really thinking that because out of 121 Tory MPs, only 42 backed her. You know, that wasn't a majority. So I don't think she'll last. I don't know why she hasn't suggested any substantial policy yet. I think that's a mistake because she's letting Nigel Farage outflank her on the right.

And they're not even acknowledging the fact that they lost a lot of voters to the Lib Dems. You know, there's still a huge caucus of voters who left the Tories to go to the Lib Dems and Labour because they missed the kind of centre right, sort of more moderate conservatism that was basically purged from the party during the Brexit years.

And they're not even acknowledging the fact that they lost a lot of voters to the Lib Dems. You know, there's still a huge caucus of voters who left the Tories to go to the Lib Dems and Labour because they missed the kind of centre right, sort of more moderate conservatism that was basically purged from the party during the Brexit years.

So I don't think she's going to take them to the next election. But I don't know how many leaders they're going to have until they see something like electoral victory again.

So I don't think she's going to take them to the next election. But I don't know how many leaders they're going to have until they see something like electoral victory again.

No. No. Because the reform party is Nigel Farage. I mean, you only have to see how they massively excelled in sort of the polls and popularity and profile after they managed to get Nigel Farage to come and actually stand for them. I mean, who do you have when you take Farage out? Richard Tice? I mean, you know, who cares about him? And... Who else is there?

No. No. Because the reform party is Nigel Farage. I mean, you only have to see how they massively excelled in sort of the polls and popularity and profile after they managed to get Nigel Farage to come and actually stand for them. I mean, who do you have when you take Farage out? Richard Tice? I mean, you know, who cares about him? And... Who else is there?

Rupert Lowe's getting a lot of attention. He's trying though, isn't he? He's been tweeting a lot of Musk talking points. But again, I think, you know, Nigel Farage is such a divisive personality. A lot of reform voters love him. They don't love him in the same way they like Richard Tice.

Rupert Lowe's getting a lot of attention. He's trying though, isn't he? He's been tweeting a lot of Musk talking points. But again, I think, you know, Nigel Farage is such a divisive personality. A lot of reform voters love him. They don't love him in the same way they like Richard Tice.

And I think a lot of people just listen to Farage or just care about seeing Farage rather than actually taking in the substance of what he's saying. That's why reforms policies haven't had the scrutiny that they should have, because it is just about Farage. Once you take them away, they just become a protest party with, you know, completely incongruent policy positions.

And I think a lot of people just listen to Farage or just care about seeing Farage rather than actually taking in the substance of what he's saying. That's why reforms policies haven't had the scrutiny that they should have, because it is just about Farage. Once you take them away, they just become a protest party with, you know, completely incongruent policy positions.

I actually think Musk and Farage might make up. I think there might be some thawing of relations. I mean, Nigel Farage apparently said that Musk has already retweeted him twice. So who knows? Maybe they'll make up, which just has such a touch of the sort of teenage... crush about it, doesn't it? It's so pathetic.

I actually think Musk and Farage might make up. I think there might be some thawing of relations. I mean, Nigel Farage apparently said that Musk has already retweeted him twice. So who knows? Maybe they'll make up, which just has such a touch of the sort of teenage... crush about it, doesn't it? It's so pathetic.

But I think what it does tell us is this whole unholy trinity of right-wing men is fractious and can chop and change at any minute.