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Jason Calacanis 0:00
J. Cal, what just happened? Did you just have a moment, an emotional moment? I don't know. You know, I've been trying to get over sacks and it's hard to get over your ex.
David Friedberg 0:08
Even when they didn't treat you well? We were in a codependent relationship and we were working on it. You have no one to fight with anymore. Who are you going to fight with, J. Cal? That's the emptiness you feel inside. Because you're a fighter. You're a street brawler. And you have no one to brawl with anymore. So you feel... Well, you're the first guy to jump under the table in a bar fight. I mean... There you go.
Jason Calacanis 0:28
There you go.
David Friedberg 0:28
As I was saying.
Jason Calacanis 0:29
It's always worse to start a fight. No, I feel like if shit goes down, I feel like Sax and I would have like... We would have thrown down. We were bulldogs. We would have fought like tooth and nail.
Chamath Palihapitiya 0:39
Okay. I have this image. It's like we're in a bar. Okay. And all of a sudden. You talking to me? A fight is about to break out. Four thought bubbles appear. Okay. J. Cal's like, J. Cal's like, let's go get him. Sax is like, this guy, this guy's a dipshit. Let's roll. I'm like, look at that chick. She's so good looking. And then Freeberg's like, what will happen to my invite to duck? Freeberg's like, how do I get out of this unscathed duck?
David Sacks 1:17
Rain Man, David Sack.
Jason Calacanis 1:24
All right, everybody, welcome to the number one podcast in the world. With me again today, for better or worse, your Sultan of Science, David Friedberg is back. How are you doing, Friedberg? I see you're a pawn, only a pawn in their game. What's going on with the pawn background? The imposter syndrome. Pawn or queen? Hmm. What is that film? Is that from a movie? What movie is that from? It's called The Imposter Syndrome. Bye. So it's like some French new wave I'm not aware of.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:01
I've learned that Friedberg's backgrounds is some like weird secret communication language. There's a small but fervent group of people that are really into these backgrounds. They're always trying to figure something out.
Jason Calacanis 2:13
Of course, with us again, Chamath Palihapitiya, your chairman dictator. How are you doing, Chamath? Nice to meet her. Thank you, sir. Good to see you. You ready for- Excited to see you. Oh, look at this. Three or four besties will be hitting the slopes. Three or four besties will be skiing together.
Aaron Levie 2:28
Aaron might be there. Aaron, where are you going for the holidays? Oh, actually, we'll be in **** next week.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:34
What? Well, there you go. Oh, new bestie in ****. Aaron, are you staying in the town?
Aaron Levie 2:38
Just at the hotel.
Chamath Palihapitiya 2:40
Okay, this is perfect. We're all going to be there, bro.
Jason Calacanis 2:44
$2,000 a night. How many rooms you got with the kids and the fam? You have three? Bro, boxes at all-time highs. Take it easy. What did you do? Did you start buying Bitcoin with your treasury? What do you mean boxes at an all-time high? Are you doing a Michael Saylor or something?
Aaron Levie 2:57
You know, it turns out if you didn't get crushed during the post-COVID period, you can just keep cranking. So that's what we've been doing.
Jason Calacanis 3:06
Oh, you've been building a real business, of course, with us now. Our new fifth bestie, Aaron Levy. He is the CEO of the publicly traded company Box, which means he's got the most to lose by coming here. So welcome back to the program.
Aaron Levie 3:20
Centrisex. Based on what you guys were just talking about before this recording started, I have no idea what we're in for.
David Friedberg 3:27
Yes.
Jason Calacanis 3:28
Listen, we're living in an age of meme stocks and people selling convertible notes to buy Bitcoin for their treasury and then becoming a Nasdaq 100. It's that simple. Aaron, when you see a company buy billions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and get added to the Nasdaq 100, what method of suicide do you think of taking your own life with?
Aaron Levie 3:49
There was a brief week in 2021 where the thought kind of crossed my mind. Yes.
Jason Calacanis 3:55
Sapuku, you're just going to use the sword, the short blade?
Aaron Levie 3:59
We have a very sophisticated audit committee that prevented the action. Will you do this for me? Yeah.
Jason Calacanis 4:07
Just do this for me. How much cash does Box have on the books, ballpark?
Aaron Levie 4:13
We just did a convert, so we're probably $600 or $700 million.

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