Episode 5021: WarRoom Christmas Eve Special 2025 cont.
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Podeste fidelis, et in triumphantis, venite, venite in letter.
Amen.
Venite, valoreus, venite, valoreus, venite, valoreus, adeus.
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Unam eras adorim, Christ our Lord.
Christmas Eve special here in the War Room. It's Wednesday, December 24, Year of Ruler 2025. We're going to go live to Bethlehem, Jason Jones. Jason, could you ask the Father, what was Bethlehem like at the time of the birth of Christ, and how has it developed over time? I mean, these stunning images we have. of people starting to gather and getting ready for the midnight mass and the celebration of Christ's birth. You've got a mosque there. Can you just walk us back? If you guys were there, you know, what, 2,025 years ago, what would it be like and what's the evolution of it over time? Jason Jones, the floor is yours.
but to enrich the experience knowing how the muslim call for prayer for you is background music for this question so um father steve bannon asked you've been here for 2 000 years by the way steve when he said that they were the first church i challenged him with arm wrestling match didn't realize he was actually the parish priest for the church of the nativity so i've just added a lot of time to purgatory but steve wants to know what was the community like here 2 000 years ago when the holy family was over our left shoulder, my left shoulder, your right shoulder.
Okay, we're having a little bit of technical problem there. As you can imagine, there's a lot of pull on the internet there, that beautiful shot. We're on a roof overlooking Manger Square, and of course we've got the priest, one of the priests that are the Orthodox priests. uh for the church and the nativity as soon as we get the shot reset we're gonna go back to it let's go to uh let's go to the vatican and uh and our own ben harnwell uh ben it always you know we do the uh uh our christmas season specials and we have this beautiful music and have the beautiful images uh somehow i think a lot of that gets lost uh during the uh during the year that people don't under you know understand the beautiful art and architecture and and music and of course that's not to the religious spirit of things but it's driven that creative spirit is driven by the religious spirit uh ben hornwell
That's right, Stephen. In fact, I could follow off your earlier question about how the difference of Christmas is approached in terms of atmosphere and culture between Rome and then London and Paris. And that's really the point of it. I think here there is still a residue left in Italy. It's a residue, but it's still left. Like Christmas is fundamentally a religious festival. Whereas in England, it's wholly a sentimental thing, a cultural stroke sentimental thing. There's no focus on Jesus Christ. There's no focus on his nativity. There's no focus on the hope and joy that Christ's birth brings to the world. It's just a purely pagan thing. festival of indulgence in the UK. And one of the reasons, you know, one of the reasons is that's because of the absolute implosion of the Church of England, the Anglican Communion, the head of the, the lead church of the Anglican Communion over the last century. It's been, it's been secularized internally and now is acting as a secularizing force across wider British society. Don't forget that in the, we, unlike the United States in England, we do have
an established church. You have bishops that automatically, by virtue of being bishops of certain dioceses, have seats in the legislature, in the House of Lords, automatically. That is what having an established church is. And it's been a secularizing force. That is why, Steve, many of us, me, you, many of us, um are trying that our best from the platform that the holy spirit has given us to stop the catholic church walking in the same secularizing direction because we don't want sort of italy for example to follow the uk france Belgium, the Netherlands, you know, you list the European countries where the overwhelming religious presence in those countries is Islam. That's the supernatural force that is followed in those countries. And Christianity is sidelined. Now, if you come back later on this, because I know we're going to talk about the influence that
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–10:30
2
What was Bethlehem like at the time of Christ's birth?
10:30–12:23
3
How has the Church of the Nativity evolved over the years?
12:23–17:05
4
What cultural differences exist in Christmas celebrations between countries?
17:05–23:45
5
How did Victorian England influence modern Christmas traditions?
23:45–46:28
6
What challenges do Christian communities face in the Holy Land?
46:28–48:04
7
Why is it important for Christians to remain in Bethlehem?
48:04–50:25
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