We Saved Each Other From Addiction | Sarah Hiscox “I Wouldn’t Be Alive Without You”

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What childhood experiences shaped Sarah Hiscox's relationship with addiction?

Davina McCall 0:00
People are gonna think that I'm this terrible person because I chose heroin over my children. I'm gonna cry already and it's usually you that's crying, oh God. Sarah Hiscox, you are my best friend. I don't know if I'd be alive without you. I remember meeting you and it was love at first sight. You were taking heroin and I thought I was gonna lose you. Will you just tell the story where my begin again happened with you? Oh, my darling. There was a big void in me. I must have been 13 and I found some pills in the bathroom cabinet and they were very, very strong opioid. And so I definitely remember being addicted to those. I don't know if I'd be alive without you. And so I was really worried when you went, I tried heroin for the first time.
Davina McCall 0:44
No, I'm not going to do it again. And that's how it was. God. Until it wasn't. In the end, my husband divorced me and took custody of the children. People lose their families all the time. But there is something about a mother losing her own children.

How did Sarah's friendship with Davina impact her journey through addiction?

Davina McCall 1:02
I thought, I've got to try and start pulling a life back together. I'm going to read you something. Oh, God. Mom. Oh gods. We'll go to them. Well, this is weird. Very weird. Yeah, yeah. This is Sarah Hiscox and she is my best friend. And very importantly, you helped me begin again. Yeah. A profound begin again. Yeah. I don't know if I'd be alive without you. And I helped you begin again. In a very profound manner and the same, I don't know if I'd be alive without you. I'm going to cry already. It's usually you that's crying. Oh, God. And also, I think that you are very inspirational for anybody out there who is just trying to find their thing. So you have... tried many different things to find out if that was going to be your creative outlet.
Davina McCall 2:04
Yeah. And I want to talk through that later. But you ended up taking a writing course. Yeah. You got a literary agent. Then you got a book deal and you have released a bloody book. A bloody book.

What was the turning point for Sarah in her battle against heroin addiction?

Davina McCall 2:18
Can you believe it? I know. Still can't quite believe it. Wow. Yeah. So... Sarah Hiscox, The Beginning and the End of Everything, out now. Yeah. Forward by some bird called Davina McCall. Never heard of her. No. Some old bag. No idea who she is. I don't think anybody's in the least bit interested either. It's the Sarah Hiscox bit they'll be looking at, not the Davina McCall bit. And you've got a little bit of a recommendation from Gillian Anderson on here. She very kindly gave me a quote, which is very generous of her, yeah. That's good. Very nice. Yeah, really lovely. But this is a massive achievement. Yes. I just want to say well done. It feels weird, though, you saying that. That doesn't sit comfortably with me, you saying that.

How did Sarah rebuild her life after losing her marriage and children?

Davina McCall 3:07
I just want to talk about something else, which is ridiculous because that's why I'm here. Because it's that imposter syndrome thing of... Well, I'm not a real writer. I know because I've written a book and it's been published. How much more proof do I need? But I think that really is what the book... I mean, as you know, the book is about a lot more stuff. But centrally, it's about feelings of low self-esteem and low self-worth, which I've struggled with. For all my life. That's really it, I think. And for me, it's the ultimate love story. And you're right, it is the ultimate love story. I mean, really, honestly, beyond all odds. I keep, whenever, against all odds, I think, I keep thinking of that Phil Collins song.
Davina McCall 4:00
Take a look at me now. I would like to talk about how interesting it was seeing how autobiographical this is. How much about you having known you and been your best friend for 40 years. Yeah. How much I didn't know. I know that's crazy. It is weird. Oh, because we have had so many conversations, obviously over the years, you know, deep, meaningful conversations. So that is strange, yeah. When I read about your childhood, and I think really when we became friends at 19. Yeah. I just started our life from there.

What role did creativity and writing play in Sarah's recovery?

Davina McCall 4:35
Yeah. Well, so did I. And we didn't ask each other tons of questions about our childhood. We were just like, who are you now? You're my person. Let's go. But also we didn't have the emotional language then.

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