Club Random with Bill Maher
Andrew Schulz | Club Random
Sun, 23 Mar
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On this episode, Bill is joined by stand-up comic and podcast provocateur Andrew Schulz. The two swap stories about Andrew’s transition into fatherhood (including fertility hurdles and the emotional roller coaster of IVF), the perils of fame in the digital age, why he once called Fox News out on its overblown “outrage” stories, negotiating free speech in comedy and the ever-shifting rules of social discourse, meeting fans where they are online. They debate America’s “abundance mentality” and how it informs politics, the decline of open discussion in modern media, the rise of cancel culture (and how both the left and right weaponize it), the fine line between comedic license and genuine offense, Elon Musk’s takeover of Twitter, and the peculiarities of personal relationships in the spotlight. They also trade observations on religion, Trump’s enduring appeal, social media mobs, bizarre magazine collections from New York City newsstands, and much more. Go to https://www.RadioactiveMedia.com or text RANDOM at 511511 to save up to 50%, today! Try ZipIntro FOR FREE at https://www.ZipRecruiter.com/RANDOM Get 50% off plus free shipping on your first box at https://factormeals.com/factorpodcast with code factorpodcast Go to https://www.zbiotics.com/RANDOM and use RANDOM at checkout for 15% off any first time orders of ZBiotics probiotics Follow Club Random on IG: @ClubRandomPodcast Follow Bill on IG: @BillMaher Don’t forget to subscribe to the podcast for free wherever you're listening or by using this link: https://bit.ly/ClubRandom Watch Club Random on YouTube: https://bit.ly/ClubRandomYouTube Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Chapter 1: What are the emotional challenges of fatherhood?
Chapter 2: How does cancel culture affect comedy?
That's hardly anything.
But I stopped doing it just because I'm like, I'm not about to have some like fentanyl and some drug that I'm.
No, but like say you used to go to Diddy's parties.
Yes, of course, as we all. Did you go to a Diddy party?
No, but I've had a couple of, you know, I used to run into him every once in a while. He was the most charming guy. He would always make you feel like, even though I didn't know him at all, for two minutes he would make me feel like I was his best friend. Yeah, yeah. There are people, Trump is like that, they say.
Of course.
You know, I met him a couple, very similar. Charming. Like charming and like you meet him for two minutes and you're like, wow, this guy really likes me. And he told me to call here and then you'd call. Yeah. Like, it's all bullshit. It's like, why? I didn't ask for it. I don't need to be your friend. But, no, I never went to one of his parties. We didn't get to that level or any level.
But, like, something like that where, like, oh, you know, I would do this, but I'm not going to because my child will read about it.
Not that, but I, like, I have no interest in going skydiving anymore. You know what I mean? Like shit that when you're younger is fun and like exciting. Like I don't need to do all that shit. Yeah. So I guess I am like a little bit more like risk averse person. Not maybe risk-averse career-wise, but like shit that I don't actually really care about.
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Chapter 3: What are the implications of social media on free speech?
I mean, I think a lot of us would rather be dumped when we're the ones that we want to be out of it, because we don't want to break that person's heart. We still want to be the good guy, even though we're going to hurt that person.
I mean, I've had it in the past one time I could think of, maybe twice, where... I was kind of what you described. I really wanted out of this relationship. It was bad.
But you didn't want to hurt her.
It's just as hard. I mean, relationships are like wars. They're easy to get into and hard to get out of. And this was Ukraine. I needed to fucking just give him the Donbass region, give her the Donbass region.
Take whatever you want. You know what?
I mean, when you're dealing with Putin, sometimes, not that I agree with that, but it's so funny. When I finally pushed it to the point and said, you know, this... I just can't do it one more day. Then like, you know, the second she's like, well, okay then. You're like, what?
Don't reject me.
You know, like you're not, you know, if they're not sufficiently, it just, it's more about. You want them to be a little hurt. It's more about ego. I feel a lot of this.
So you need a lot, you need love on the way out too. That's selfish.
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Chapter 4: How does the abundance mentality influence politics?
Chapter 5: Why is open discussion declining in modern media?
I don't know if that's true anymore. Like the UAE, I've been to Abu Dhabi.
The UAE is not the Muslim world. But they're in the Middle East.
That's what you're talking about.
Okay, but you're talking about a tiny, tiny percentage of what typical life is like in 60 Muslim countries. You're talking about a little enclave that they carved out so Westerners could come and spend their money. Right.
Right.
We're talking about far less than 1% of the way life is like. You would not want to live even in a moderate country like Jordan, and your wife certainly wouldn't enjoy living there.
Yeah. Okay? You're making logical points. Well, these are factual points. Yeah, sure, they're factual. They are. Yeah, but it doesn't matter. It's like I gave you another option that is true. Well, but it's... I think, matter of fact, I would even argue that life is more relatable to the average American in the UAE or in Dubai than it is in... Again, but it's a disingenuous argument.
Why is it disingenuous?
Because I just told you.
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Chapter 6: What role does fame play in personal relationships?
None. They get to let a rip out there. No tuxedos, no cigars, no riding tricycles. You got to watch this Chimp Empire show, and it's like, you kind of watch it, and you're like, oh, this is too close to who we are.
They're very close. True.
They're close, and then there's other things that Yes. Like, this idea of, like, having to, like, maintain the alpha, right? Like, you also see how that's disruptive in terms of, like, creating any technology, like, sharing any advantageous information. Like, there's this one dude who needs to show he's alpha, and every once in a while, he just fucks up everything in the neighborhood.
He's like a drunk dad or whatever. He just comes around.
You're talking about a chimp now?
Chimp, yeah. Oh, okay. And he's like, I need to show everybody I'm alpha. So he just starts fights with people, fucks shit up and does whatever. And the problem with that is that you can't sit around and develop fire when you're worried that this guy is going to punch you in the back of the head every second. So everybody's just kind of like on edge, hoping this alpha won't start shit.
Doesn't that describe, I'm sorry, but doesn't that describe today's administration? Talk to me. Talk to me.
If you push back against me, if you push back against me.
It just sounds exactly like what's going on now with the tariffs and everything else. And like he's going to take over Greenland and we're going to. invade Canada. And everybody is just like, is this alpha just going to do some crazy shit? I mean, the stock market is down over a thousand points. I'm sure that affects you a little bit.
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Chapter 8: What is the significance of truth in comedy?
So, you know.
Also, it allows you to have a platform with him where you can tell him the things you disagree with. Yeah. I think it's... Somebody was saying that to me. It's generous to allow that to happen. Of course, but this is also part of American discourse. It's very important. I think he needs to do the White House Correspondents Dinner just because... I think a very unique thing about it.
Like, we humble our heroes. It is a very beautiful thing about American culture, right? Is that we will make you beg for our support every four years. You don't just get to be king.
That's why it was great when Ricky Gervais hosted the Golden Globes. We take the piss out of the big ones. The big ones, the elites. We take the piss out of them.
And you saw the reaction, right?
Yes. Everyday people. Visceral.
It was visceral.
100%.
Here's this guy whose life is perfect. He's got absolutely everything. Yes. He's submitting himself. Fuck him. But look, that's the human interaction. It is. I'm sure that when you got successful and I get some success, you realize, oh shit, there are all these people that are like, They're hating on me for things that aren't even true, and they're saying these things about me. It's a compliment.
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