Crime Stories with Nancy Grace
KILLER O.J. SIMPSON SPIED ON MY SOFA SEX SESSION WITH NICOLE
19 Jan 2026
Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
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Guaranteed human. Crime Stories with Nancy Grace. He says double killer O.J. Simpson spied on him during his sofa sex session with O.J. Simpson's wife, Nicole Brown. Well, that's just the tip of the iceberg. This guy has a brand new book, and he's right when he says that could have been me. I'm Nancy Grace. This is Crime Stories. I want to thank you for being with us.
Chapter 2: What firsthand account does Keith Zlomsowitch provide about his relationship with Nicole Brown Simpson?
Oh, honey, where did you see? She asked, can you send someone to my house? Well, my ex-husband or my husband just broke into my house, and he's ranting and raving now. He's just walked out in the front yard. Have you been drinking recently? No, but he's crazy.
You know what always strikes me about that portion of one of Nicole Brown's many, many 911 calls is that she was just like, yeah, he's breaking into my house again. By this time, it had happened so many times, and she had been beaten so many times. That photo that was put up in the courtroom during Simpson's murder trial, I of her with her face just totally beaten and bruised.
I mean, how that jury, oh, gosh, that's one of them. Look at her arm, for Pete's sake. Oh, gosh. It happened over and over and over. Joining me right now, two incredible guests. First, I want to introduce to you Keith Zlomcewicz. He is Nicole Brown's former boyfriend, and he is the author of a brand new book, Stalked. And I've got it right now, but I really think we should give the whole title.
It's Stalked. It could have been me. And I think what you mean by that, Keith... is that you could have been the one lying out in the driveway that night with your head nearly severed off your body. Nicole Brown's head was attached to her body by a thin rope. thin bit of flesh in the back of her neck. She had been almost totally decapitated. The killer had that immense strength.
I wonder what he would have done with you if he had gotten a hold of you, Keith, knowing that you had been dating Nicole, actually spying on you through the window, freak.
Freak is right.
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Chapter 3: How did O.J. Simpson's stalking behavior impact Zlomsowitch and Nicole's relationship?
And, uh, You're absolutely right when you say that. In real time, maybe it didn't cross my mind as much, but after I saw what he was capable of in the murders, it's something I've had to live with for 30 years. I think that it could have been me.
You are seeing shots of Nicole in life. Some of the happiest times of her life, outside of being a mom. We're with Keith Zlomzowich. It's not just what he's saying. It's what other people said. Of course, their relationship was marred, ruined by this.
It's 3 o'clock in the morning. And Keith and Nicole made love on the couch. But they weren't alone. There was somebody watching. There was someone watching through the window. It was a defendant.
Nicole hires a babysitter to watch the children while she and Keith go out to a comedy club. Arriving home, the children are asleep. It's about 3 a.m. when Keith and Nicole become amorous on the couch, unbeknownst to either of them. O.J. Simpson is hiding in the bushes outside the house, stalking, watching the couple make love on the couch.
Did you have any idea that OJ Simpson was staring? He's about three feet away from you. It sounds like a Diddy threesome watching you have sex with Nicole Brown with his children asleep upstairs. I mean, did you have any idea the extent to which he was stalking you and her?
We knew about the stalking because it had happened several times prior to this particular incident. But that evening, we were out several places before we went home, one of which was Roxbury, where Nicole saw OJ across the dance floor and brought it to my attention immediately that he was there. And we just sort of, at that point, had had enough of his stalking and following us.
So she looked at me and she said, what do you want to do? Let's just get out of here. So we headed back to the house, not knowing he was going to follow us. In hindsight, maybe should have had an idea that that was going to happen. But, you know, we got home and we were in the house thinking we were alone and things happened. That was the first time we made love.
So it was a special, it was very special experience.
come to find out you know I need a shrink and I need one really quickly Dr. Bethany Marshall is joining us renowned psychoanalyst out of LA this jurisdiction author of Deal Breaker you can see her now on Peacock and you can find her at DrBethanyMarshall.com Dr. Bethany Marshall I'm just a trial lawyer you're the shrink but there's got to be a name for this for what Simpson did before the double murders
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Chapter 4: What events led to Nicole Brown Simpson's tragic murder?
I would expect that, especially when you've got children together. But to call your ex a whore, a bitch, and everything else that he called her, told her he was trash and filthy and dirty and had shamed him, really? With the children, you know they could hear me screaming like a crazy man.
Mm-hmm.
Nancy is part of the pattern of abuse, right? Devalue the woman, shame her for her sexuality, humiliate her, embarrass her, try to take down her credibility in front of the children. These are classic abuse signs. Also trying to isolate the victim from sources of support. So here she starts dating Keith. They're having this romantic evening.
He bursts through the bedroom because what he's trying to do is assert dominance. over Nicole and over Keith. And he thinks that by separating them, he's gonna be able to separate them permanently. Now, that really odd thing where he says, I'm a proud man, he turns reality on its head. He's actually humiliating himself as well as her.
And then when he shakes hands with Keith, that's, I think, another dominance move. He thinks that he's been successful in separating the two, getting them into different rooms. shakes hands and leaves.
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Chapter 5: How did Zlomsowitch react upon discovering O.J. Simpson was spying on him and Nicole?
And I think he feels like he got his way and like he won. What do you mean he won? That he won. That he has now taken Nicole apart psychologically, abused her, beat her down emotionally, and now she will come back and depend on him instead of continuing to date Keith. He probably thought that he won her over.
So basically he's like a dog that comes in and teeties on everything that he thinks is his.
exactly that's exactly what he did that's how he asserted the dominant he lifted his leg and then he was happy and he left you know because her house was his territory nancy i used to live in brentwood between nicole was just to the south of me and oj simpson on rockingham was just to the north so i know that area very very well it is super quiet at four in the morning
Brentwood is such kind of like a sleepy community, but it's a very wealthy enclave. So her house where it was located, it was almost like walking distance between the house and Mezzaluna where Ron Goldman worked. And so it was a place where there was a lot of visibility. She and I went to the same hair salon and the same nail salon, and the girls in there would talk about the fact
that she would come in with bruises on her face and on her arms. She lived her life being stalked and being beaten. That was just her life at that time.
You know, it's very disturbing. And even though I prosecuted, by the time I got domestic violence cases, as they are called euphemistically, somebody was dead or had had an aggravated assault or aggravated battery, like lost an eye, lost use of an arm, lost use of a limb. But when I worked at the Battered Women's Center as a volunteer at night, that was for nine years.
And to hear these women, because again, by the time I usually got their cases, they were dead. And I never got to speak to them. But as working the hotline, I did speak to them. And they would be just totally numb. It would be just a way of life for them. You know, that is curious. Back to you, Keith Zlomzowicz, new book, stalked, it could have been me,
It's interesting the way you described, and I didn't want to interrupt you when you first said it, that you guys were at the Roxbury and you were having a great time. Everybody was dancing. You look over, there's Simpson. Oh, what a coincidence. There he is. Probably been following you the whole night. And she was like, there he is. See, I would have been shocked. Like, why is he here? What?
But she, it was just typical. Another day in Brentwood for her. There's OJ stalking her again. Simpson, Orenthal James Simpson, turning up again wherever she was. It was just routine for her at that point. She was numb to it. I mean, by the way you described it, she wasn't shocked or afraid. There he is, like a bad penny.
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Chapter 6: What insights does Dr. Bethany Marshall provide about the psychology of stalking?
Keith meets Nicole, Aspen, Colorado. Zlomzowicz is director of operations for Mezzaluna restaurant chains, California locations and Aspen. Keith returns to Los Angeles and he and Nicole begin dating. Keith and Nicole constantly under attack as Simpson stalks and harasses the couple.
During a dinner out in Mezzaluna and Brentwood, Keith and Nicole mortified to see Simpson pull up in front of the restaurant.
Nicole was there, Keith was there. The defendant suddenly showed up, drove up in front of the restaurant, got out of the car, walked up to the table where they were seated, put his hands on and said, I'm OJ Simpson and she's still my wife. Well, she filed for divorce and moved out of his house. That was intimidating.
And I don't want any emergency finding in. Can you get someone over here now to 325 Gretna Green? He's back. He's OJ Simpson. I think you know his record. Did you just see somebody over here? He's just all about to hear. Is he over? Wait a minute. What kind of car is he in? He's in a white Bronco. But first of all, we'll put that door down to get in. Let's see.
The 911 calls escalate, escalate, escalate. Nothing was ever done. And now she's dead. Joining us tonight, a man that truly loved her and that she loved in return. Keith Zlomzowich, new book, stalked. It could have been me. And he's totally right. I want to look very quickly at what we were just viewing, and that's Darden's argument to the jury, because I want to watch Simpson.
This is Darden describing another incident where Simpson shows up where Nicole and Keith are. Let's watch.
At the Mezzaluna. Nicole was there. Keith was there. The defendant suddenly showed up, drove up in front of the restaurant, got out of the car, walked up to the table where they were seated, put his hands on and said, I'm OJ Simpson and she's still my wife. Well, she filed for divorce and moved out of his house.
That's what I wanted to see. That's what I wanted to see. When Darden says she filed for divorce and moved out of the house, he's like... Did you see that? I mean, and another thing I've noticed when I was watching him during the trial and Keith, you were called as a witness for both the state and the defense, which I'm going to get into.
But I noticed every time it got sticky for Simpson, he would like suddenly start writing notes. I would have loved to see those notes. I did it. Come and get me. But he would look away from the jury and start writing notes.
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Chapter 7: What were the dynamics of O.J. Simpson's relationship with Nicole Brown?
And we know eventually how he did. You get what we're doing tonight, right? I'm not only talking about your new book, Stocked, but I'm trying to tell, and I want you to help me tell it along with Bethany, to other women. They think nobody's going to believe me. This is somehow my fault. I screwed up. I don't want my family to know I'm going to wear a high neck and long sleeves and long pants.
I don't want anybody to see the bruises. I don't want my children to know. I don't want my mess up mess up my family I don't want to do that it's all technical legal term crap BS they will be beaten it statistically will not get better it won't it will get worse I don't like being the harbinger of doom but I know what the statistics tell me
And the woman will live through it for the rest of her life if she stays. And even worse, the children will see it, hear it. Mommy's a whore. Mommy's a bitch. And they will grow up numb to that and think it's okay. The girl growing up will end up with a man that beats her statistically. And the boy growing up, he starts off like a little angel, will grow up to beat someone statistically.
This is true. You've got to tell this story, Keith. Do you hear me?
I do hear you. And that's part of the reason I wrote the book. Over the years, certainly since the advent of social media, I've been reached out to by numerous women around the country and some overseas that followed the story, followed Nicole and my plight, and appreciated what I did to try to defend her and pick up for her. Made a lot of
I've helped a lot of women out of circumstances where they've come to me and said, you know, you gave me the strength to get out of this relationship when I didn't think I had that. And I'm still friends with some of them to this day.
So I wanted this to be a sort of wake up call for some women who are going through this right now as we speak, who may be watching this to know that it doesn't change guys like that. are going to be like that. They do not change. When OJ tried his reconciliation with Nicole 15 months after I had met her, and we had been so close during that time, he took her away to Mexico.
She was at her parents' house for Easter weekend, I believe it was, and he knew she would be there. So he showed up unannounced, uninvited, and tried to convince her he had been to therapy, he had changed, he was a new man, and he swept her away to Mexico to spend some time together.
to try to get her back she fell into it and you know sadly all nick really wanted was her family she that family unit together and we talked about this many times and she fell back into his trap of i've changed let me show you how good i can be and she called me and we had long talks about it and she decided she was going to give it a try
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Chapter 8: How did Nicole's family respond to her relationship with O.J. Simpson?
You know who I am? What? No, the dispatcher does not know who you are, cowlings, from your first two initials. And he says he's going to his mother's. This guy murdered two people. Why is he even out walking around on bottom of his house holding himself hostage? No, anybody else they would have, police would have overtaken, gotten them out of that car and put them face down on the ground.
But no, not Simpson. And it all culminates...
This is O.J. Simpson's one day in court.
By your decision, you control his very life in your hands. Treat it carefully, treat it fairly. Be fair. Don't be part of this continuing cover-up. Do the right thing, remembering that if it doesn't fit, you must acquit.
In the matter of the people of the state of California versus Orenthal James Simpson, case number BA097211. We, the jury, in the above entitled action, find the defendant Orenthal James Simpson not guilty of the crime of murder in violation of penal code section 187A, a felony upon Nicole Brown Simpson.
That verdict from our forensic court TV. Were you surprised at the verdict, Keith?
Yes and no. I was concerned that the jury was going to buy into Johnny Cochran's bulls**t, for the lack of a better word. But I wasn't overly surprised.
Keith, you were actually a pallbearer. You carried Nicole's coffin. What was going through your mind? You knew he murdered her.
this is almost a surreal out of body experience. You got to remember the murders took place on a Sunday night, Monday morning. The funeral was on a Thursday. It was so lightning speed. I flew out there immediately. The family asked me if I'd be a pallbearer. I didn't see them because I flew into Los Angeles the night before.
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