EP 112: Author of Decoded Explains Why This T‑Mobile Ad Failed in One Sec
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What T-Mobile campaign failure changed Phil Barden's career?
today's episode kicks off differently instead of easing in with career highlights our guest behavioral science expert and author phil barden opened straight with a t-mobile campaign disaster that changed the entire course of his career and instead of hiding that away at the bottom of the show like some guests do everybody wants to share a mistake but use it at the end phil brings it right to the beginning I feel like I'm in a confessional and it's good to be rid of this. It's the same space. No one can hear you, Phil.
Okay, all right.
There's no one listening, just you two. So this week's show is how you can get more out of behavioral science, neuroscience, and use it in your day-to-day for your marketing. We're not telling you whether the ad is good or bad. We will just tell you how the brain will process that. Phil is brilliant, and I think I'm going to have to get him on for a second episode. And he's convinced me to buy his book, Decode. So if you like neuroscience and you want to learn how to use behavioral science to make better marketing campaigns, this episode is for you. Enjoy. Thank you. Phil Harden, welcome to the show. This is very unusual. Most people that come on the show want us to do the mistake after they've talked about how brilliant they are in their careers.
And you've sort of said, actually, I want to start with my mistake at T-Mobile. So T-Mobile, well, that takes me back, having a T-Mobile phone. Is that the days of Nokia? When did T-Mobile stop being T-Mobile as well? Oh, goodness. It was 2010 or a bit later. They merged with Orange in the UK. So it was joint venture between Deutsche Telekom and France Telekom. And then that all got subsumed into EE, which has carried on ever since. Right, that's where they are, EE, because everybody wanted to be on Orange. I remember Orange was quite a cool network back in the day. That was the days when you had to pay for your text messages, wasn't it?
How does behavioral science apply to marketing strategies?
Indeed. They did Orange Tuesdays, wasn't it, with free cinema tickets? Oh, yeah.
Well, very good. Orange Tuesdays. I'm sure there's a T-Mobile arena somewhere, isn't there? There is in Germany because they're the sponsors of Bayern Munich. Ah, yeah, there you go. That's what I know from probably when they knocked Liverpool out of the cup.
We're delaying. Let's hear the mistake. Yeah, true.
I feel like I'm in a confessional and it's good to be rid of this.
No one can hear you, Phil.
There's no one listening, just you two. Yeah, so I was VP for the brand in Europe. and charged with relaunching the brand around Europe. And we'd come up with a very interesting proposition. You were talking just a minute ago about back in the days when you had texts and minutes and people bought tariffs based on fixed bundles of a number of minutes and a number of texts. People got mightily fed up if they had, for example, used up all their minutes but had loads of text remaining as almost like credit. But then they got charged a lot of money for making voice calls and vice versa. So that insight led us to create a flexible tariff called, ironically, Flexed. And what Flexed did was basically bundle the minutes and text together.
And so it didn't matter which you used. You could deplete text and then use your minutes or deplete minutes and use text. So it was lovely. It was really flexible. And to communicate this, we briefed the agency to come up with a creative idea, which they did, which was lovely, which was about things that are rock solid and rigid now flex. So things that you had thought previously were inflexible are now flexible. And we did quite a few different ads, and one of them had a guy leaning on a brick wall. and gazing over a park. And the brick wall was flexing under his weight, under his arms. And, you know, there was a bit of text about the proposition. And this had just really bombed. And we couldn't understand why, because we thought this was a lovely creative device.
And we've got our guy there who's using the tariff. And that coincided with... me being introduced to a couple of guys from a company called Decode.
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Chapters
6 chapters
1
What T-Mobile campaign failure changed Phil Barden's career?
0:00–2:14
2
How does behavioral science apply to marketing strategies?
2:14–8:08
3
What is the significance of category entry points in marketing?
8:08–12:57
4
How do first impressions affect consumer perception?
12:57–19:14
5
What mistakes did Phil Barden learn from the T-Mobile ad?
19:14–31:55
6
How can marketers improve mental availability for their brands?
31:55–48:08
Speakers
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