From Nobody to Netflix: The Genius Marketer Behind the Liver King

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What inspired John Gafford to invite John Hyland?

John Gafford 1:01
We see the Liver King documentary. And if you don't remember who that is, that's that lunatic dude that was all jacked up. It was like jumping in cold water and eating animals alive or whatever he was doing. Everybody knew who this dude was. He went from nobody to everybody in like two seconds. And we're watching the documentary about his rise and fall, whatever it was. And, you know, it's like 30 minutes into it and I'm, you know, I'm watching it, but I'm not super vested in it. Cause I'm like, okay, this is kind of whatever, but you know, I'm not super vested in the program. And then all of a sudden this dude pops on the screen and this guy says, I remember exactly what he said. He goes, so he came to us and he said he wanted a million followers.

How did the Liver King rise to fame?

John Gafford 1:42
And we said, okay, we can make that happen. And I was like, okay, wait a second. Who's that guy? Who's this dude that's talking about you want a million followers that are highly engaged? I can make that happen. I'm like, this is for me. It's like I don't just look at the dancing chimps on the stage. I want to see the man behind the curtain. I want to see the Wizard of Oz. I want to see the guy pulling the strings, making things happen. So I start Googling this cat. And my wife sees me pick up my phone and she's like, are you bored? Like, can we turn this off? Because she wasn't that into it. I was like, no, no, no, no. I'm just looking up this dude because this dude's obviously got something. And I Google him and I'd redo some research. I'm like, cool.
John Gafford 2:22
I'm like, I need to talk to this guy at some point. The very next morning, I get a text message from somebody that knows this guy that was on the screen and said, hey, are you recording a podcast on Tuesday by chance? Because this guy is going to be in Vegas and wants to be on your podcast. I was like, I'm in. I told that story about, I told the guy the story that I just told you, and I said, I'm in. So, ladies and gentlemen, we are very lucky. Welcome to the program, The Wizard of Oz Behind the Lever King. This is... is the brains at the 1DS Collective. This is John Hyland. John, what's up, man? Thank you, man. What an intro. Thanks for joining us. Well, I got to tell a story, man. You got to sink them in. You got to grab the attention.
John Gafford 3:04
Yeah. You know, the doc is funny. I got to see my parts. I think it morphed to when I got to see the cut, but it was very, very interesting to see how this stuff unfolded. I've been getting texts from all over the place saying, Holy hell. The same response you've had. It's been a wild week. So let's talk. I don't want to talk just specific about liver King, but obviously there's some magic there. So is this, he came to you and said, I want a million followers. I want a million engaged followers. Not just, not just BS where you'd buy the bots from China. He wanted real engagement. Right. And that's something that you guys obviously do because you made it happen for him and he's proof positive that he can be done. So how do you get, into that let's go back a little bit before we start talking let's talk about john highland what did you grow up doing what did you like how did you get into this

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