First Port Stanley, Now This?? (with The Upshot!) | The History of The World Cup (Part 3/4)

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James McHugh 0:12
Welcome back to Finverse History. It's part three of the World Cup story. We're still joined by the Upshot boys. Hello. And this episode, we're going to the den of iniquity that is South America in the 70s.
Josh Widdicombe 0:26
It's the sewer. Yeah. You keep leaving big challenges in South America, this series. You're really putting some crunching tackles in.
James McHugh 0:31
Well, we're going to see why, aren't we? We're going to see why. Something we missed out on the last episode, which I thought happened in a later World Cup, but we should just mention it.
Josh Widdicombe 0:39
The Argentinians are animals.
James McHugh 0:40
The Argentinians are animals.
Yeah.
James McHugh 0:42
And the Brazilians keep trying to fuck them. No, no, no. Guys, you want goats. Anyway, in 1974 in the West German World Cup, we need to talk about Zaire because this is one of the funniest moments. I only realized yesterday that it's not actually as funny as I thought it was. So you were at this moment. so Brazil are taking it so Zaire qualify and they're being led by a dictator in Zaire formerly the Congo called Mobutu oh yeah have you guys done this on your yeah we've done Mobutu so who's Mobutu
Bert Horobin 1:15
Big dictator. He organized the Rumble in the Jungle as well. He's doing the sports washing thing for Congo. Is there a story or supposedly this NBA player who he became mates with and went over there and then this NBA player disappeared. No, it wasn't him. It was someone else. This guy disappeared and the story is that he got eaten by Mabuti. Or that might have been Idi Amin. Idi Amin also threatened Muhammad Ali as well. Yes, he did. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, Mobutu, so it's Zaire as it's called then. And he's got some insanely long name. He's changed his name too. And it's sort of the ideal dictator look.
James McHugh 1:52
The all-powerful warrior who, because of his endurance and inflexible will to win, goes from conquest to conquest, leaving fire in his wake.
It's like that Welsh town.
James McHugh 2:00
That's my pet name.
Big run-up. Mobutu Sese Seko Nkuku Nkubendu Wazabanga.
Bert Horobin 2:08
Knew it off by heart. Yeah. And he wears the iconic dictator look.

What challenges did Zaire face during the 1974 World Cup?

Bert Horobin 2:12
You know what I mean? It's like leopard print, sort of soldier's hat made of leopard print. Yeah, yeah. Could look almost airline, air hostess-y. Yes.
James McHugh 2:19
Yeah, quite like short skirt.
Bert Horobin 2:21
Short skirt.
James McHugh 2:22
You wouldn't say that to him, no? No, I can't.
No.
James McHugh 2:24
so anyway so he's uh he's they're promised financial rewards for qualifying they get embezzled and then the squad say we're not going to play so then fifa pay them directly to play yugoslavia they lose nine nil mabuti then directly intervenes saying if they lose by more than three goals to brazil then they wouldn't be allowed to return to zaire so uh that's the context yes that's great so they're two nil down to brazil when brazil gets the nine nil was a group stage game
Josh Widdicombe 2:52
Yeah.
James McHugh 2:53
So they... Yeah, Zaire did not make it out of the group. Sorry to break that to you. There's a game where... So they're losing 2-0 to Brazil. There's a free kick and then they're lining up in a wall and this must be like the last sort of 20 minutes of the game. So, you know, never have there been higher stakes really for the Zaire players. One of them, a defender called Mwepu Ilunga just runs out before the whistle's gone and just boots the ball upfield. And the BBC spin this as like... native confusion doesn't know the rules oh doesn't know the rules now I genuinely thought that's what this was until yesterday at the World Cup listen to a podcast and oh no it was because this is brilliant i love this native confusion story no because when i what i remember this from watching the uh fifa sanctioned box set history of the world cup when i was a kid and and barry davis goes oh bless him he doesn't even know the rules or whatever uh but actually it turns out he was just trying to save his own life time wasting he was time wasting yeah because the other thing i heard there was he was like trying to humiliate
Bert Horobin 3:56
and butu by maybe by by maybe he's the one that went to fifa and was like i didn't sorry i didn't even know the rules i reckon you stick this on the dvd box there well i believe that until yesterday and so i guess it's not as funny

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