Best Of: Al Pacino / Saoirse Ronan

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What does Al Pacino share about his childhood in the Bronx?

Terry Gross 0:02
From WHYY in Philadelphia, I'm Terry Gross with Fresh Air Weekend. Today, Al Pacino talks about the godfather and about growing up in the South Bronx with a single mother, little money, and friends who never made it out alive. He has a new memoir. Also, we hear from Saoirse Ronan. She stars in two new films, including The Outrun, about a young woman struggling with alcoholism. To try to get sober, she moves back to her family's sheep farm in Scotland. Ronan had to learn new skills for that role.
Saoirse Ronan 0:34
And I was thrown straight onto the Orkney mainland and I had my hand up a ewe and was pulling a lamb out. And I did that seven times.
Terry Gross 0:45
Ronan's other film currently in theaters is the World War II drama Blitz. Our film critic Justin Chang will have a review. That's coming up on Fresh Air Weekend. This is Fresh Air Weekend. I'm Terry Gross. My guest is Al Pacino.
Don't ask me about my business, Kate. Is it true? Don't ask me about my business. No.
Terry Gross 1:21
Well, I'm going to ask Pacino about his business, by which I mean his art.
It sounded like a shot to me.
Terry Gross 1:27
It did, I know. It's you slamming the table.
Oh, all right. As long as it's not a gun. I've had enough of those.
Terry Gross 1:37
So I'm going to talk to Pacino about his remarkable performance in the Godfather films and other films. We'll also talk about his life. He's written a new memoir called Sunny Boy, which is the name his mother used to call him. It spans his life from the days he grew up in the South Bronx, raised by a single mother with little money. to falling in love with the language of the great playwrights Strindberg, Chekhov, and Shakespeare, getting his start in avant-garde theater in Greenwich Village, surprising himself by becoming a movie star, nearly dying from COVID, and all the ups and downs along the way. In case you need to be reminded, some of his now classic films include Dog Day Afternoon, Serpico, and Scarface.
Terry Gross 2:17
Although he starred along with Robert De Niro in Godfather II, they never had a scene together. But they were together in Heat and more recently in Martin Scorsese's film The Irishman. Pacino won an Oscar for his performance in Scent of a Woman. He won an Emmy for his performance in the HBO adaptation of the play Angels in America, playing Roy Cohn. He starred in the film adaptation of David Mamet's Pulitzer Prize-winning play, Glengarry Glen Ross, and later starred in a Broadway revival of the show, but in a different role. Al Pacino, welcome to Fresh Air. So exciting to have you here.
Thank you. I'm very happy to be here.
Terry Gross 2:52
I want to get to a lot of your life. I want to start by talking about The Godfather. So I want to start with a scene from the first Godfather film. You've begun your transformation into the killer Michael, into the crime family Michael. You know, you start coming home from the military. You don't want any part of the crime family. But then you're kind of pulled in after your father is shot. So here's a scene from Godfather 1. You've begun your transformation into the hardened Michael. Your father's still alive, but Michael is preparing to take over from him. And you have become so hardened, like you hardly blink in some scenes, including this one. So you're with Mo Green, a Vegas casino owner, kind of modeled on Bugsy Siegel. And the Corleone family has helped back him.
Terry Gross 3:48
Also on the scene is Michael's older brother, but not very bright brother, Fredo, played by John Cazale, and the family lawyer, Tom, played by Robert Duvall. Mo Green is played by Alex Rocco. You speak first.
Mo Green 4:01
The Corleone family wants to buy you out. The Corleone family wants to buy me out. No, I buy you out. You don't buy me out. Your casino loses money. Maybe we can do better. You think I'm skimming off the top, Mike?
You're unlucky.
Fredo Corleone 4:22
You damn guineas really make me laugh. I do you a favor and take Freddie in when you're having a bad time, and then you try to push me out.
Wait a minute. You took Freddy in because the Corleone family bankrolled your casino because the Molinari family on the coast guaranteed his safety. Now, we're talking business. Let's talk business.

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