Assisted Living Communities: Podcast with Sheryl Zimmerman, Kenny Lam, and Ken Covinsky
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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What is the difference between an assisted‑living facility and an assisted‑living community?
The JerryPoL Podcast is supported by listeners like you, who've either spread the word on social media, left reviews on podcasting apps, or have clicked on our donate button on the JerryPAL website so we can continue to fund each one of these episodes. Welcome to the Jerry Powell Podcast. This is Eric Quadera.
This is Alex Smith.
And Alex, we're live in person, at least part of us. And we got some people on Zoom.
First time since we have a pandemic. First time in person since the pandemic.
Who do we have with us today?
Um we are delighted to welcome Cheryl Zimmerman, who's a professor at UNC Chapel Hill and is co co directs a research program in aging there, and is also co editor in chief of Jamda. Cheryl, welcome to the Jerry Powell podcast.
Hey, I'm really glad to be here and to to be able to see you all first time in person for a long time.
And we're also delighted to welcome back to the Geriopel Podcast Kenny Lamb, who's assistant professor of medicine at UCSF in the division of geriatrics. Welcome back, Kenny.
Thank you so much, Alex.
And uh our most frequent host guest on the Jerry Powell podcast, Ken Kavinsky, Professor of Medicine UCSF Geriatrics. Welcome back. Great to be back at Jerry Powell Studios.
Um so we're gonna be talking about assisted living facilities. We've almost had two hundred and fifty podcasts and we have not directly talked about assisted living facilities. So I'm kind of excited. We got uh Cheryl published a great article and Kenny and um Ken published an editorial for that article in w which uh journal again?
Some
Jim I am I am
Jamma Network Open.
Jamma Network Open. Okay. Um. But before we do, we have a song request. Luckily, uh it's not gonna go to Ken Kavinsky because he would do a Chicago Cub song. Um
Kenny Lamb.
Kenny, do you have a song request?
I have a song request. I'd like to request how to save a life by the fray.
And what?
Uh well I was trying to think. I wanted something a little contemporary. I was listening to some of the other podcasts and uh I know people have been giving you a lot of challenge songs, but this one I think is a little bit easier to play. Uh and uh I also think it's a little bit topical. The songs about how uh, you know, saving lives is actually uh pretty complicated business. And even though you can enter into it with the best of intentions, it takes a little bit of thought uh in order to do it well.
Yeah. Nice. Good choice. All right, here's a little bit.
Step one, you say we need to talk. He walks, you say sit down, it's just to talk. He smiles politely back at you. You stare politely right on you. Some sort of window to your right is he goes left, and you stay right between the lines of fear and blame. You begin to wonder why you came. Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend somewhere along in the bitterness, and I could have stayed up. With you all night had I known how to save a life. That was beautiful.
What was that? Mid nineties? Ninety four. Mid nineties, yeah.
Oh, sorry. Or later, I think a little later than that.
Yeah,
I
was gonna say
aughts at least.
Really?
Yeah.
Ots? Jesus, I'm I'm losing track of time. Well, let's dive into the subject. Assisted living facil I can't even say the word facilities. Um RCFEs, boarding cares, nursing homes. Cheryl, what the heck is the difference between all of these?
Wow. And I love that you stumbled over that word because people who've been working in this field Assisted living facilities and I I I mean this seriously, they call that the F word. These places no longer like to be called assisted living facilities 'cause that's kind of got that institutional feel. So their preference is to be called communities. So I'll I'll try to resist correcting you during this podcast, but I try to be really diligent to using the word community. So
just community or like a retirement community or what The community seems a little bit too uh vague and overbroad.
Well, the difference between a facility versus a community is meant to be the facility really does have an institutional connotation to it. Whereas
How do profit motives of corporate owners create tension with ideal resident services?
You know, assisted living began, it was supposed to be and
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the difference between an assisted‑living facility and an assisted‑living community?
0:01–4:49
2
How do profit motives of corporate owners create tension with ideal resident services?
4:49–11:21
3
What were the core services identified by the Delphi panel as essential for assisted‑living communities?
11:21–18:04
4
How do advanced care planning and resident‑centered decision‑making fit into assisted‑living care?
18:04–23:46
5
What are the current challenges with staffing, training, and staff‑to‑resident ratios?
23:46–29:29
6
How are basic standards and safety measures being met—or missed—in assisted‑living homes?
29:29–35:32
7
What practical steps can policymakers, providers, and families take to improve quality of care?
35:32–41:59
8
What future research or policy actions are needed to create consistent standards across the industry?
41:59–47:25
Speakers
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