Communication Skills in a time of Crises: A Podcast with VitalTalk Faculty Drs. Back and Anderson

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What is the episode’s opening theme and who are the hosts?

Tony Back 0:01
The JerryPow podcast is brought to you by Archstone Foundation, preparing society and meeting the needs of an aging population.
Eric Widera 0:08
And now, here
Unknown 0:10
are your hosts.
Eric Widera 0:12
Welcome to the JerryPal Podcast. This is Eric Guidara.
Alex Smith 0:16
This is
Eric Widera 0:16
Alex Smith. And Alex, who do we have on the JerryPowl Podcast today?
Alex Smith 0:21
We are delighted to welcome to the podcast Tony Bach, who is a professor of medicine and palliative care physician at the University of Washington and co-founder of Vital Talk. Welcome to the Jerry Pell Podcast, Tony.
Tony Back 0:34
Thank you. Hey, Alex and Eric. Great to be here.
Eric Widera 0:37
Oh.
Alex Smith 0:38
And we are also delighted to welcome back to our podcast Wendy Anderson, who is a palliative care physician at UCSF in San Francisco General and Vital Talk uh lead uh in the Bay Area and uh senior faculty member. Welcome back to the Jerry Powell podcast, Wendy.
Wendy Anderson 0:53
Thank you so much for having me. I'm so glad to be here.
Eric Widera 0:56
And we have experts in communication. We're gonna be talking about communication in a time of crises and we have a lot of crises going on right now. But before we get into that topic, we always start off with a song request. Tony, I heard you got a song for Alex.
Tony Back 1:11
Yes, time after time. Uh it it seemed like really appropriate uh a as a theme for what palliative care clinicians are doing these days. Um but I I kinda worried that Cindy Lauper was kinda dating me, but we're gonna go with
Unknown 1:26
that. No way. No.
Alex Smith 1:30
So I'm gonna do the iron and wine ish uh version uh because I cannot sing like Cyndi Lauper. So no surprise. But here's just a little bit from the beginning.
Unknown 1:49
Lying in my bed I hear the clock tick and think of you caught up in circles, confusion is nothing new. Flashback warm nights almost left behind. Succe of memories. Time after sometimes you picture me I'm walking. Too far ahead you're calling to me. I can't hear what you said and you say go slow. I fall behind. with a second hand unwind. If you're lost you can look and you will find me. Time after time. If all I will catch you, I'll be waiting. Time after time. Time after time.
Eric Widera 3:05
Nice. I can almost tell how much Alex loves a song by how long his intro version of the song is.
Alex Smith 3:13
I love that song. It's been it's been played by many different people and it always sounds great. No matter who did Tuck and Patty have a great version by the way. There's Dating Myself Jazz group from back Yeah. Back when? That was a nice
Tony Back 3:25
cover. Thank you.
Eric Widera 3:27
So uh a lot going on right now. Uh today is I always need to put in a a date because this is gonna probably be published in a week from now and what our next crises will be in a week from now, like who knows? Um but we're dealing with you know, we're still dealing with the COVID pandemic. We're also dealing with i it's coming to light for a lot of Americans, uh, racial injustices, we have a Black Lives Matter movement and protests, but you know, it's been going on for centuries in the US, so it's not really something new, but um it's really coming to the forefront. And uh we were hoping we can talk about How do we as geriatricians, as palliative care doctors, as clinicians talk to um our patients um about all of these different things?
Eric Widera 4:22
So thank you for joining us today. Alex, where should we even start?
Alex Smith 4:27
So let's start with the George Floyd because that's where we started our last few podcasts and that's on everybody's mind. uh sort of at the forefront with coronavirus, hard to say which is more prominent. But I guess the questions are how do we um address this with patients? Ought we address it? Ought we check in with patients about um how they're feeling in uh and and coping in light of of George Floyd and the protests? And um who should we talk to about these issues?

How do the guests suggest addressing the George Floyd protests and racial trauma with patients?

Alex Smith 4:59
Tony, I'll hand it to you first.
Eric Widera 5:01
Okay. We we started off with the easy question. Yeah,
Tony Back 5:05
yeah. Yeah. Well, so I think it's r super important for all of us as clinicians to be acknowledging what is I think a historical and transformative moment in the history of the United States. I think it'd be weird for us to not you know, give our patients a chance to say something about it in some way. And so th that's one part of it.

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