What is Emotional PPE? Podcast with Dani Chammas
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GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
55 min
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7 chapters
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What is emotional PPE and why is it needed for frontline healthcare workers?
The JerryPowl podcast is brought to you by Archstone Foundation, preparing society and meeting the needs of an aging population. And now, here are your hosts.
Welcome to the JerryPow podcast. This is Eric Rodera.
This is Alex Smith.
And Alex, who is our guest today?
Returning. We are delighted to have Danny Shamus, who's a psychiatrist and palliative care doctor at UCSF. Welcome back to the JerryPal Podcast. Is this your third time?
Third time.
Third time is a charm. Delighted to have you back.
Slight to be back.
Um, and on today's episode we're gonna be talking about emotional PPE for front lines of coronavirus. Uh, Danny, we're gonna be talking about donning and doffing emotions.
But we can if you want to.
Well, we'll talk about what the heck emotional BPE is. Uh, but before we do, do you have a song request for Alex?
Yeah, my song request is I Got You Babe by Sonny and Cher.
And why I got you babe by Sonny and Cher?
Because I'm really hoping that our colleagues on the front lines know that like we got you, babes.
Yeah. That's good. I like the babes.
Let's hear it, Alex.
They say we're young and we don't know. We won't find out until we grow. Well I don't know if all that's true Cause you got me and baby I got you. I got you, babe. I got you, babe. I got you, babe.
All right. I should have changed it to I Got You Babes. Yeah. Maybe at the end.
Well, Danny, I wanna thank you for coming on our show. Uh for those listeners who haven't uh uh listened to your podcast that you did on therapeutic presence in the time of COVID, really strongly encourage our listeners to listen to that. Um Today we're gonna be talking about emotional PPE. In the era of coronavirus. Um Before we get deep dive in emotional PPE, w what do we mean by that?
What do we mean by that? Well, Eric, for weeks, you know, we've been having this intense discussion around the need for personal protective equipment, right? PPE to help protect frontline workers. who are working with the sick and we have been talking about masks and gowns and shields and all the physical gear that protects from infection. And I've been seeing a growing movement that people want to broaden this, not just from physical PPE, but from emotional PPE. And I I wish I knew who to credit. I don't know exactly who first like gave birth to this phrase, but I've seen it in a few contexts now from colleagues in mental health that are Taking on efforts at their institution to make programs and interventions that focus on protecting the emotional and psychological health and intactness of healthcare workers on the front lines of this pandemic.
My hope, I'll add, is that this concept gets discussed sort of far and wide.
And to provide some more context, you know, we have headlines about Doctor committing suicide. She tried to do her job and it killed her father and it killed her, said the father of Doctor Lorna Breen, who worked in a Manhattan hospital hit hard by the coronavirus outbreak. This is from the New York Times. Um and uh I I believe you've heard of other um it's you know he goes on she was She was in the trenches on the front line, he said, make sure she's praised as a hero because she was. She's a casualty as much as anyone else who died. Um and I heard that this you know, this is not an isolated incident. You've heard Danny of other healthcare workers on the front lines. Who have sh struggled emotionally and even committed suicide.
Yeah, I was just reading um about, you know, an EMT also in New York who recently killed himself. Um Under similar, you know. Extremely distressing conditions that they was exposed to and I don't know. I don't know how you guys feel when you hear those stories, but I know I get this really uncomfortable feeling in my chest when we lose someone to suicide, right? Like I'm just grappling with like what could we have done? Right? How could we have protected you? But yeah, far and wide.
Mm-hmm. And that's probably you know, suicide is probably the You know, it's like the tip of the iceberg, right? Um like this is the w the when it the extreme, when it gets to this point when no someone feels like they can't l go on living any further and end their life.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What is emotional PPE and why is it needed for frontline healthcare workers?
0:01–9:14
2
How do trauma, secondary trauma, and moral injury affect clinicians during COVID‑19?
9:14–17:14
3
What evidence shows the psychological impact of the pandemic on healthcare providers?
17:14–26:57
4
How do the true/false quiz questions illustrate the scope of emotional distress?
26:57–35:28
5
What are the three “C” buckets (Connection, Culture, Coping) of emotional PPE?
35:28–42:01
6
How can connection be fostered among frontline teams and families?
42:01–49:43
7
What practical coping strategies and resources are available for providers?
49:43–55:20
Speakers
4 identifiedMore from GeriPal - A Geriatrics and Palliative Medicine Podcast
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