Girls Gone Gravel podcast

Invited to the Party with Rebecca Rusch (Episode 168)

30 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week we get the chance to hear from off-road cycling legend Rebecca Rusch. A lifelong athlete, Rebecca started her professional athletic career i...

Processing the Pain with Lauren De Crescenzo (Episode 167)

23 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

This week we welcome back US gravel juggernaut Lauren De Crescenzo. We hear what Lauren has been up to since her last appearance on the show in 2021 (...

Love the Process with Kate Cross (Episode 166)

16 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Kate Cross didn’t fall in love with mountain biking on her first ride. But, after the pandemic changed her career plans, she found that riding her b...

Finding Confidence with Deanna Mayles (Episode 165)

09 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

Not many people choose a 4-day mountain bike stage race as their first racing experience, but Deanna Mayles did. Deanna started cycling with her dad w...

**REBROADCAST** Finding Flow with Frankie Holt (Episode 152)

02 Jan 2024

Contributed by Lukas

The freedom of the open road is what draws many of us into cycling. This is no different for our guest this week Frankie Holt. She tells us how a cycl...

**REBROADCAST** One With the Bike with Alisha Zellner (Episode 151)

26 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Many people change career paths in their lives, and our guest this week is no exception. Alisha Zellner recently started a new career path as the Comm...

**REBROADCAST** Be In the Moment with Katya Rakhmatulina (Episode 153)

19 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our guest this week is ultra endurance cyclist and 2023 Colorado Trail women’s champion Katya Rakhmatulina. Not only did she win the Colorado Trail ...

More Girls on Bikes with Kate Courtney (Episode 164)

12 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

If you’ve ever seen Kate Courtney ride a bike, you know that she sends it. Growing up in Marin County, Kate rode a mountain bike from a young age, a...

Here for the Challenge with Anna Hicks (Episode 163)

05 Dec 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the show, Kathryn is joined by another Cal Poly graduate making waves in the gravel scene. Anna Hicks will be making her debut in the Lif...

Stick With It with Alexis Skarda (Episode 162)

28 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Growing up in Boulder with a father that ran marathons, Alexis Skarda was destined to be a professional athlete from a young age. As a runner in colle...

Keep it Fun with Jenna Rinehart (Episode 161)

21 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Jenna Rinehart made her Lifetime Grand Prix debut in 2023, and with a quietly consistent effort she made her way to a 6th place finish in the overall ...

Amplifying Voices with Abby Mickey (Episode 160)

14 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

After a career as a professional racer in the women's road peloton, Abby Mickey was ready to walk away form the sport entirely; she was burnt out and ...

Special Episode - Women's Performance Podcast: Shannon O'Grady, PhD - Why You Need Creatine for Performance, Recovery and Longevity

07 Nov 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Creatine is having a moment and, as today’s guest, Shannon O’Grady says, “Creatine has been waiting for its moment for decades.”Shannon has he...

***REBROADCAST** Rip Up the Script with Kristen Legan (Episode 146)

31 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Racing 350 miles across the flint hills of Kansas is no easy feat. This week we have the privilege of hearing from the woman who did it the fastest in...

**REBROADCAST** Helping Women Wrench with Casey Wytaske

24 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

As cyclists, many if not all of us have had mechanical issues on our bikes. And because cyclists are so friendly, many if not all of us have been aske...

Freeride for the Women with Jacqui Ball (Episode 159)

17 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our guests find their way into cycling from many different avenues, snowmobiling however is one way we don’t typically hear. This week’s guest, Ja...

UCI Gravel World Champs Recap (Episode 158)

10 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

On Saturday October 7th the 2023 UCI Gravel World Championships were hosted in Veneto, Italy. Despite the significance of the event, no live coverage ...

Taking On New Challenges with Sarah Lange (Episode 157)

03 Oct 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Many of our listeners will recall that Unbound 2023 was epic for many reasons; the women’s start and depth of the field, the weather, and of course ...

The Next Big Thing with Cynthia Frazier (Episode 156)

26 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The last time we heard from Cynthia Frazier in 2021, she had just finished her first Unbound XL race. Since then she has gone on to race - and win - n...

Go Far with Rebecca Fahringer (Episode 155)

19 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Like many off road cyclists, Rebecca Fahringer got her start in triathlon during college. But after watching just one cyclocross race she decided to g...

You Do You with Margaret Barawskas (Episode 154)

12 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Many people turn to cycling to find a sense of community within the sport. Our guest this week, Margaret Barawskas, has made it her life’s work to h...

Be In the Moment with Katya Rakhmatulina (Episode 153)

05 Sep 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our guest this week is ultra endurance cyclist and 2023 Colorado Trail women’s champion Katya Rakhmatulina. Not only did she win the Colorado Trail ...

Finding Flow with Frankie Holt (Episode 152)

29 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

The freedom of the open road is what draws many of us into cycling. This is no different for our guest this week Frankie Holt. She tells us how a cycl...

One With the Bike with Alisha Zellner (Episode 151)

22 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Many people change career paths in their lives, and our guest this week is no exception. Alisha Zellner recently started a new career path as the Comm...

**REBROADCAST** Creating Safe Spaces with Abi Robins, Founder of Queer Gravel (Episode 126)

15 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Queer lives have been seriously attacked in U.S. legislature lately (and, always). The voices of those that do not value or respect trans lives have b...

The Season of Endurance with Isabella Hyser (Episode 150)

08 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

At just 19 years old, Isabella Hyser is the youngest female racer in the Lifetime Grand Prix. Even though she may not be able to share a post-race bee...

Covering the Femmes with Anne-Marije Rook (Episode 149)

01 Aug 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This year marked the second edition of the Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift. Each of the eight days of racing were filled with excitement, drama, and ...

**REBROADCAST** Adaptability is Everything with Annijke Wade (Episode 129)

25 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We know this is a gravel podcast, but this week we couldn’t help but welcome adaptive mountain biker - Annijke Wade. As a Black disabled cyclist, An...

Business of Fitness: Talking Tour de France Femmes avec Zwift with Kate Veronneau

11 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

In this special episode from Feisty Media's Business of Fitness Podcast, host Molly Hurford talks with Zwift’s Kate Veronneau about the upcoming sec...

Embrace the Challenge with Hillary Allen (Episode 148)

04 Jul 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Hillary Allen is not afraid of doing hard things. This year, after finishing the 200 mile race at Unbound Gravel she hopped on a plane to Ireland the ...

The Right Track with Carolin Schiff (Episode 147)

27 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Like many women at the top of the gravel scene, our guest this week Carolin Schiff got her start in road and cyclocross racing. The 2023 Unbound 200 c...

Rip Up the Script with Kristen Legan (Episode 146)

20 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Racing 350 miles across the flint hills of Kansas is no easy feat. This week we have the privilege of hearing from the woman who did it the fastest in...

**REBROADCAST** Breaking Down the Barriers of Bikepacking with Devin Cowens (Episode 130)

13 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Starting something new is daunting, and vulnerable - and it can be challenging to find spaces that are open and accepting of newness. This is exactly ...

LIVE from Unbound Gravel (Episode 145)

06 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

2023 Unbound Gravel was an epic event! From the mud, to the hot temps, to the driving rain, the riders endured it all. On this week’s episode Kathry...

Unbound Gravel Preview Show (Episode 144)

02 Jun 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We are coming to you LIVE from the stage in Emporia KS for this special Unbound Gravel preview show. Kathryn and Kristi are joined by Alison Tetrick, ...

Special Episode from All Bodies on Bikes: All the Ways We Bike with Ellen Noble

30 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Ellen Noble is a retired professional cyclist living in Western Massachusetts with her boyfriend, Adin, and our dog, Winnie. Since her retirement, she...

Diving in the Deep End with Ellen Campbell (Episode 142)

23 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Like many folks born and raised in Durango, Ellen Campbell started riding bikes at a young age and never looked back. She attended Fort Lewis College ...

Live from the Gone Graveling Festival (Episode 141)

16 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week we are coming to you live from the Gone Gravelin’ Festival in Bentonville, AR. Whether you were at the festival and want to relive the mem...

The Extra Long Haul with Sylvia D’Aoust (Episode 140)

09 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Have you ever accidentally registered for a 350 mile gravel race? Well, Sylvie D’Aoust has. But instead of frantically trying to change her registra...

Getting Your Mind In Gear with Pat Spencer, LCSW (Episode 139)

02 May 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Our mental game on the bike is just as important as our physical training. This week Kathryn and Kristi are joined by mental performance coach and lic...

Live from Sea Otter (Episode 138)

25 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

This week Kathryn and Brooke are coming to us live from the Sea Otter Classic in Monterey, California with an all-star lineup of interviews. We hear f...

Bright Future with Anna Yamauchi (Episode 137)

18 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Growing up in a family of cyclists, Anna Yamauchi was never far from her bike. When the pandemic put her college life on hold, Anna took the opportuni...

All In on Community with Alyssa Gonzalez (Episode 136)

11 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Alyssa Gonzalez gives it her all in everything she does. Whether it is running track in college, learning how to ride a bike, or skiing, Alyssa goes a...

Helping Women Wrench with Casey Wytaske (Episode 135)

04 Apr 2023

Contributed by Lukas

As cyclists, many if not all of us have had mechanical issues on our bikes. And because cyclists are so friendly, many if not all of us have been aske...

The FoCo Fondo Scoop with Whitney Allison (Episode 134)

28 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Making her start in road cycling, Whitney Allison is now a household name in the graveling space. Calling herself a consistent "4th place finisher", W...

Amanda Nauman is One Tuff Panda (Episode 133)

21 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Amanda Nauman is one tuff panda. And this episode is to prove it! This week, we welcome Amanda to share all about her journey to gravel, as well as he...

Always Relevant with Breanne Nalder-Harward (Episode 132)

14 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

As a Salt Lake City, Utah cyclist, Breanne Nalder-Harward knows A LOT about climbing. That's why she was the perfect person to become the race directo...

Why Equal Opportunity is No Longer Enough - An International Women's Day Discussion - Women's Performance

08 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

What does equity mean in sport? Yes, it's women being included, but it's also resources for racing moms, supporting the inclusion of Black folks in hi...

Special Feisty Drop: All Bodies on Bikes Podcast with Marley Blonsky and Maggie Lowe (Episode 131)

07 Mar 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Today we bring you something very special - one of our favorite episodes from the new All Bodies on Bikes podcast powered by Feisty Media! In this epi...

Breaking Down the Barriers of Bikepacking with Devin Cowens (Episode 130)

28 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Starting something new is daunting, and vulnerable - and it can be challenging to find spaces that are open and accepting of newness. This is exactly ...

Adaptability is Everything with Annijke Wade (Episode 129)

21 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We know this is a gravel podcast, but this week we couldn’t help but welcome adaptive mountain biker - Annijke Wade. As a Black disabled cyclist, An...

Life's A Joyful Ride with Mai Merritt (Episode 128)

14 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

If you are looking for some inspiration to just get out there and get cycling, this is the episode for you. This week, Kristi and guest co-host Brooke...

This Feisty Boss is in the Saddle with Kathryn Taylor (Episode 127)

07 Feb 2023

Contributed by Lukas

We hear from Kathryn every week - but who really is Kathryn Taylor? This week, Kristi turns the mic around and interviews fellow co-host and Feisty Bo...

Creating Safe Spaces with Abi Robins, Founder of Queer Gravel (Episode 126)

31 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Queer lives have been seriously attacked in U.S. legislature lately (and, always). The voices of those that do not value or respect trans lives have b...

Finding Her Distance To Empty with Starla Teddergreen (Episode 125)

24 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Understanding what being an athlete means can be a hard process. And it's different for everyone. For Starla Teddergreen, this journey took a long tim...

Getting All Bodies on Bikes with Marley Blonksy (Episode 124)

17 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

All bodies are good bodies, all bikes are good bikes, and all rides should be celebrated. That is the tagline of "All bodies on bikes", a community wo...

Making Living Things with Caro Poole (Episode 123)

10 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Recently, there has been a ton of moms who are absolutely crushing it in the sports scene. From Chelsea Sodaro winning the Ironman World Champs, to Se...

REBROADCAST: More Than a Bike Ride with Brooke Goudy

03 Jan 2023

Contributed by Lukas

Kathryn and Kristi catch up with cyclist and diversity advocate Brooke Goudy. Brooke’s love for cycling started as a child when she got her first bi...

REBROADCAST: Riding Iceland with Lael Wilcox, Brooke Goudy, Lynnee Jacks & Maria Ögn Guðmundsdóttir

27 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this bonus episode, Kathryn is chatting about all things Iceland with Lael Wilcox, Brooke Goudy, Lynnee Jacks and Maria Ögn Guðmundsdóttir. This...

Rose's Retirement Party (Episode 120)

20 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

With Rose Grant announcing her retirement, it is the end of an era for gravel racing. This week, Kathryn and Kristi pay homage to Rose's career by wel...

The Future is Bright with Michelle Duffy and Betsy Welch (Episode 119)

13 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

2022 has been a breakthrough year for women in cycling. From the Tour De France Femmes Avec Zwift, to women continually crushing it at gravel races, w...

Movement to Process and Heal with Linette Kielinski (Episode 118)

06 Dec 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Many of us find clarity through riding. For Linette, it helped her move through her divorce and find community. Starting out riding as a commuter, Lin...

Rachel Olzer is Both Intense and Soft (Episode 117)

29 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We have heard many cyclists talk about how being on the bike brings them joy, but this week was different. This week, Kathryn and Kristi speak to Rach...

Stamina for Growth with Madilynn Garcia (Episode 116)

22 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We all know that folks can take racing very seriously. Madilynn Garcia takes racing seriously, but dances while doing it. Having fun on the course is ...

Going Deep on Belonging with Elizabeth Allen (Episode 115)

15 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The outdoors are gatekept. This isn't new news - outdoor sports primarily consist of white, cisgender people. Recently, gravel has made quite the spla...

Movement is Such a Gift with Nicole Sin Quee (Episode 114)

08 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Nicole Sin Quee believes that movement is a gift. And with movement, comes joy. We love this reframing, and that's why this week, Kathryn and Kristi c...

Fueled is Fast with Kristen Legan and Lauren De Crescenzo (Episode 113)

01 Nov 2022

Contributed by Lukas

As part of the Feisty Media "Fueled is Fast" Campaign, Kathryn chats with Kristen Legan and Lauren De Crescenzo. As a longtime coach of athletes of al...

The Sweet Scoop at Big Sugar (Episode 112)

25 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Live from Bentonville...This is.......Girls Gone Gravel! This week, we bring you in-person interviews before and after the gravel races at Big Sugar. ...

Inspiration Flows Both Ways with Serena Bishop Gordon (Episode 111)

18 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Moving to Bend as a runner, Serena Bishop Gordon struggled to find a community. When someone recommended cyclocross, everything changed. Serena is now...

Riding HER Race with Hannah Shell (Episode 110)

11 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Today we bring you - someone especially BADASS. Like many gravel cyclists, Hannah Shell started cycling after a hip injury that impeded her running ab...

Defining What Matters with Haley Smith (Episode 109)

04 Oct 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Many people use their sport to manage their mental health - and also, many struggle with their mental health because of their sport. This week, Kathry...

This Doctor's Prescription is More Bikes with Lauren Cantwell, MD (Episode 108)

27 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

How does a busy ER doctor balance work and racing in the elite field? Lauren Cantwell doesn't just enjoy cycling, she lives for it. Ironically, as an ...

Crushing People's Souls with Paige Onweller (Episode 107)

20 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Paige Onweller's confidence is contagious. She is a self-proclaimed soul crusher - through kindness and badassery, of course. This week, Kathryn and K...

An Adventure on Any Two Wheels with Lex Albrecht (Episode 106)

13 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Lex Albrecht lives for the adventure. From motorcycling through Alaska, to leading the starting pack in every race, Lex flies by the seat of her bicyc...

Are You Really Fueling Enough with Caroline Burkholder, RD (Episode 105)

06 Sep 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Here at Girls Gone Gravel, we're pretty vocal about how much women need to eat. And it's A LOT, especially if you're active and performance-minded. Ho...

These Girls Went Gravelin' - A Recap of Gravel Worlds and Last Best Ride (Episode 104)

30 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast - we bring you updates on all of the exciting things happening in the gravel realm recently. This past weekend, Kristi and Ka...

Tri's Loss, Gravel's Gain with Isabel King (Episode 103)

23 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Isabel (Iz) King had made quite a name for herself in triathlon before her transition to gravel cycling. After doing her first professional race at th...

Cheers to our 100th Episode! (Episode 102)

16 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We made it!! 100 whole episodes of Girls Gone Gravel goodness (well, 102 to be exact)! All thanks to you - our lovely fans, we have been able to bring...

Femmes Finale with Alison Tetrick and Anne-Marije Rook (Episode 101)

09 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

The Tour De France Femmes Avec Zwift is officially over! With Annemiek van Vleuten taking the win, true history was made in the cycling community. Th...

Tushar Recap (Episode 100)

02 Aug 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Climbing over the tallest mountains in Utah, the Crusher in the Tushar is a grueling 69.9 miles of climb, descend, rinse, repeat. Or as the race calls...

IX: Turning up the Volume with Joan Cronan

26 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Not to pick favorites, but here at Feisty - this is definitely a favorite. With almost 50 years of experience as an athletic director and inductions i...

IX: Changing the Game with Wendy Mink

19 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are overwhelmed with excitement to share the first episode of our limited Title IX series. This week, Haley Chura - co-host of Ironwomen - intervie...

From Ultra Running to Gravel Grinding with Maude Farrell (Episode 99)

12 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

It seems that many of the cycling pros we interview, start their career in cycling after a running injury. For Maude Farrell, while she used to be an ...

#WatchtheFemmes with Kate Veronneau (Episode 98)

05 Jul 2022

Contributed by Lukas

History is being made this month, as Zwift sponsors the biggest race in women's cycling history. For the first time EVER, ASO will be organizing The T...

More Than a Bike Ride with Sofia Gibson (Episode 97)

28 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Sofia Gibson never thought she'd be a cyclist. After losing her Dad in 2017 from a drunk driving accident while he was out cycling, Sofia didn't thin...

Trailer: IX Voices for Title IX Powered by InsideTracker - Women's Performance

09 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Feisty Media Presents: IX Voices for Title IX Powered by InsideTracker. Listen to this trailer, where Sara and Selene tell us what to expect for this ...

Live from Emporia, Kansas! (Episode 96)

07 Jun 2022

Contributed by Lukas

LIVE FROM EMPORIA, KANSAS, THIS IS...Girls Gone Gravel! This week, we have boots on the ground in Emporia to welcome athletes to the finish chute of U...

Giving Voice to Women's Cycling with Janel Spilker (Episode 95)

31 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

We are gearing up and ready to rock it at Unbound this week! The 200-mile course will see some amazing cyclists this year and we couldn't be more pump...

GRL PWR with Alison Tetrick (Episode 94)

24 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Can you ever really get enough GRL PWR? In true Girls Gone Gravel style, this week we talk to another badass female leader, Alison Tetrick. Alison is ...

Next Level Performance with Selene Yeager (Episode 93)

17 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This is it, folks. Today is the day we have been waiting for. Next Level, written by both Selene Yeager and Dr. Stacy Sims, is now out and ready for p...

Perseverance, Patience, Perspective, and Power with 3x Olympian, Amber Neben (Episode 92)

10 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Okay Gravellers, she has been hit by a car, broken her pelvis, had skin cancer, multiple stress fractures, and STILL is a 3x Olympian. That's right - ...

**REBROADCAST** Love At First Ride with Mari Holden (Episode 65)

03 May 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the podcast Kathryn & Kristi chat with former professional cyclist Mari Holden. Mari confesses she has been in love with the sport of...

We're All on a Journey with Molly Cameron (Episode 91)

26 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

There’s no denying that trans and LGBTQ people, especially athletes, have been under serious attack recently. With hundreds of anti-LGBTQ bills bein...

No Boring Bikes with Squid Bikes Co-Founder, Emily Kachorek (Episode 90)

19 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

Here at Girls Gone Gravel, we LOVE female founders. Especially those as funky as Emily Kachorek. Emily is the co-founder of Squid Bikes - a boutique b...

**REBROADCAST** All About Nutrition with Kristen Arnold, RDN (Episode 74)

05 Apr 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on the show Kathryn is chatting with Registered Dietician and former professional cyclist Kristen Arnold. As a Registered Dietician, Kristen...

Queen of the Short Course with Denesha Snell (Episode 89)

29 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week on Girls Gone Gravel, Kathryn and Kristi meet with Denesha Snell, the Queen of the Short Course.  Denesha shares how her desire to impr...

Calling In with Andi and Ash Zolton (Episode 88)

22 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this week's episode of Girls Gone Gravel, Kathryn and Kristi sit down with Andi and Ash Zolton, co-founders of Roam Events. Roam Events provides th...

*REBROADCAST* Follow Your Passion with Hannah Otto (Episode 80)

15 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this week’s episode, Kathryn and Kristi are chatting with professional cyclist Hannah Otto. At 26, Hannah has already spent more than half of her...

Exposure and Experience with Ajoa Abrokwa (Episode 87)

08 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

On this week's episode of Girls Gone Gravel, Kathryn and Kristi connect with Ajoa Abrokwa. Ajoa is a Professor of Health Studies and Education at...

Shred Girls with Molly Hurford (Episode 86)

01 Mar 2022

Contributed by Lukas

This week Girls Gone Gravel hosts Kathryn and Kristi talk with Wellness and Adventure Storyteller, Author, Podcast host and all around badass, Molly H...