Why Congress Isn’t Meeting the AI Moment; And, Why Saudi Arabia’s Oil Is a New Iran Target

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Will AI‑generated actors like Tilly Norwood ever star alongside Harrison Ford or Scarlett Johansson?

Chloe Melas 0:00
Do I think that Harrison Ford or Gene Smart or Scarlett Johansson are going to be starring alongside an AI actor anytime soon? No. Do I think it could happen? Yes.
Yasmin Basu 0:14
Hi, everybody, and welcome to Here's the Scoop from NBC News. I'm Yasmin Basugan. So I feel like for the last week or so, including today, we've been talking about AI, right? And tonight is the Emmys, in which Harrison Ford and Jean Smart are nominated for an Emmy for their respective shows. But NBC News entertainment correspondent Clayma Loss sat down with Tilly Norwood, who is an AI-generated actress, to ask her... How, Tilly Norwood, how AI is going to affect Hollywood? And would she be performing alongside the Harrison Fords and the Gene Smarts of the world one day? We're going to get into that. We are also talking about a new front in the war with Iran. Now, the Houthi rebels have been operating inside Yemen for quite some time now.
Yasmin Basu 0:58
But they are now taking aim at an oil route in the Red Sea. The Houthi rebels being a proxy of Iran, which is potentially putting pressure on the U.S.-Saudi relationship.
Unknown 1:10
Thank you.
Yasmin Basu 1:13
Up first, though. So AI leaders, they've been calling on governments to help them slow the pace of AI development. There was an essay out this weekend. Anthropic CEO Dario Amadei outlined steps that he wanted the industry and lawmakers to take. In it, there were things like requiring safety evaluators to embed with the team's building AI tools, establishing common safety standards across the industry, and also coordinating with authoritarian governments like China to try and get them – to adhere to safety protocols as well. So OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, tech billionaire Elon Musk, they said they'd be on board with this plan. But what about Congress? And as lawmakers return to Capitol Hill this week, will they be able to take any meaningful action on regulating AI?
Yasmin Basu 1:59
I mean, do they even have the knowledge to do so? So for that, I want to bring in Ryan Nobles. He's our chief Capitol Hill correspondent. Hey, Ryan. Hi, Yas. So how are these warnings being taken, these AI warnings being taken in Congress?
Ryan Nobles 2:18
I think they're being taken seriously. I think that members of Congress individually have been at least talking a good game when it comes to trying to find a way to regulate the rapid growth of artificial intelligence. But we've seen this movie before when it comes to Congress and technology. This is a body that just is not equipped to... to keep up with the rapid pace of tech. I mean, as a legislative framework, things take a long time to get done here. And by the time a group of members get into a room and try and address something, the technology's already rapidly eclipsed what potential piece of legislation that they would ever get passed. And I think we see that playing out here in real time. You
Ryan Nobles 3:07
When Democrats were still in control of the Senate, Chuck Schumer held this big AI summit where he brought in all the tech leaders and they had all these conversations and they put out a long list of potential prescriptions to deal with it. Literally nothing came out of that. And so we're in a same situation now where, again, now you have the tech leaders themselves saying, you have got to help us do something. But the form and fashion in which that gets done, I think, is still a long ways away, which is not what anybody wants to hear.

What safety steps are AI leaders such as Anthropic’s CEO and OpenAI’s Sam Altman proposing for regulators?

Ryan Nobles 3:39
And then the other part about this is we are in the least productive window of Congress's timeline. You're just This
Yasmin Basu 3:47
is this is at least. Yes.
Ryan Nobles 3:48
This is already a very unproductive Congress. But you're talking about that window of time leading into a midterm election. They're just not going to do anything significant between now and Election Day. So perhaps they could cobble something together in the lame duck. I think that probably has a lot to do with the way the election turns out. But Congress is not going to rescue us from this problem, at least not in the short term.
Yasmin Basu 4:11
Okay, so let's talk about the potential rescue, even though you say they're not going to rescue us in the short term. And listen, this is about saving humanity.

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