Former CEO of American Apparel on Leading Through Chaos and Corporate Turnarounds

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Previously titled “Key Lessons From Building Household Brands With Chelsea Grayson” — renamed by the publisher on Aug 2, 2026

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Who is Chelsea Grayson and what are her credentials?

Chelsea Grayson 0:08
You're never going to be able to be as entrepreneurial. And the best of CEOs say, oh, I want to maintain that entrepreneurial spirit within the four walls of this company. And, you know, it's like trying to turn the Titanic away from the iceberg. You know, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. It takes a minute to, you know, get things turned. But that's the key. spotting that iceberg from really far away and starting to turn and starting to switch the engine. So I think the key to being able to be entrepreneurial and to getting things done the way you want to get them done is to have long, long term strategizing and planning.
Rudy Mawer 0:42
My name's Rudy Moore, host of Living the Red Life podcast, and I'm here to change the way you see your life in your earpiece every single week. If you're ready to start living the red life, ditch the blue pill, take the red pill, join me in Wonderland, and change your life. What's up, guys? Welcome back to another episode of Living the Red Life. Joining me today is Chelsea, who is a powerhouse. She's managed some of the biggest companies in America. In fact, first ever female CEO of True Religion, a brand I'm sure you know, American Apparel. and many more. So Chelsea, excited to dive into some of the big lessons from some of these big, infamous brands. Welcome to the show.

How did Chelsea transition from lawyer to CEO?

Chelsea Grayson 1:20
Thank you, Rudy. I'm really privileged to be here with you. Yeah, so I'm Chelsea Grayson. I guess I can divide my career up into three chapters really quickly for you. First, I was a lawyer. I was a partner at a big firm. Now I'm a recovering lawyer. So I'm still weaponized, but no longer super dangerous. And I transitioned from that to become the CEO of three big brands. So first, American Apparel, and then True Religion, and then Spark Networks, which owned a bunch of huge dating apps like JDate and Elite Single and Silver Single and Christian Mingle. And now in the third chapter of my career, I'm sitting on boards of directors, mostly public company boards, but some private. So I currently sit on the board of Exponential Fitness, which owns Club Pilates and Pure Bar and Rumble Boxing and Lindora and Stretch Lab and a whole bunch of other fitness and wellness companies. boutique fitness brands. I also sit on the board of Beyond Meat, which fits in with that whole health and wellness theme.
Chelsea Grayson 2:18
And I've just joined the board of Sunrider International, which is a big MLM company privately held in the nutraceutical space. Previously, I was on the Morphe Cosmetics and Sugarfina board, also the Delta Dental board and a whole bunch of other boards. And Here I am, born and raised in Los Angeles, Los Angeles strong. I've got two kids who are up and out of the house, and that's me.
Rudy Mawer 2:40
It's great. Obviously, a ton of experience, like I said, which we're going to dive into some of the biggest lessons from. So I'm excited. But I would love to dive into some of the experience you've got from these big brands, right? And maybe let's start at the top. You know, with these bigger companies you're a CEO of, you know, a lot of my audience are running 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 employees. And I've ran up to about over 300 and it changes at every level, right? Which is what I teach. So what were some of the, you know, the highs and the lows from running some of these big companies and 10,000 staff?
Chelsea Grayson 3:17
Yeah, you know, I will say that I think first and foremost, the thing that I learned, the most important lesson I learned was that communication is key. Frequent, regular, transparent communication. with all of the stakeholders. So if it's a public company, that means the market and the investors. It means your lenders as well. And with any company, it means your customers, your clients, your vendors, your suppliers. But most importantly, with any company, but particularly with big companies, especially if you're dealing with, yeah, 10,000 employees globally, it's your employees.

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