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My Therapist Ghosted Me

MTGM EXTRA! "Lesbian circularity..."

22 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is 'Lesbian circularity' and how is it explained?

2.512 - 5.477 Unknown

This is a Global Player original podcast.

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5.597 - 23.35 Joanne McNally

I thought you were going to be a little more discreet if I'm honest, folk. You know I'm not discreet. I don't know what you're expecting. And while it brings out the worst and the lowest in me, because I'm like, oh my God, who cares? Read a novel in the same breath. I care. Do you know the deets? Do you know the deets? Joe, do you know the deets? Do you know the deets?

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23.892 - 31.431 Vogue Williams

I'm not just going to randomly post about being married to Spencer in November. That is the month I post about my dead dad.

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32.052 - 61.763 Joanne McNally

Women calling each other mean on the internet is, I'm going to go so far as to say, pathetic. Hello, welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Gerard McNally, Vogue Williams. Vogue, I can see Spencer's... Spenny, we can see you're naked again. This is on YouTube. He knows, this man knows exactly what he's doing. Just for the listeners, I logged in.

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61.823 - 86.203 Joanne McNally

I was logged in, but there was something wrong with my camera and I hadn't kind of registered I was here yet. And Spencer was bollock naked, like basically pointing his penis at the camera in a kind of a violent, aggressive way. It couldn't have been more in the camera. And you said, stop, stop, they're going to be on soon. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm here. I'm here. Blinded by the light.

86.644 - 87.868 Vogue Williams

Blinded by the light.

88.422 - 112.911 Vogue Williams

poor Spano he's got running running penis which isn't his best no no no I'm not gonna I'm not gonna cast judgment what I will say is there was a here he comes back here he goes he's delighted with himself a significant I'm sorry you had to see that okay I'll make sure that next time I've got at least a semi on thank you I wouldn't mind you're gonna wish you had a semi when this goes up on YouTube because we're putting up the whole dick

112.891 - 116.036 Joanne McNally

To be fair, he was actually covering his dick. He was covering his dick.

Chapter 2: What big announcement is made in this episode?

116.056 - 116.477 Vogue Williams

I don't mind.

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116.777 - 119.742 Joanne McNally

Oh, did you see any dick? No, he had his hand over it.

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120.944 - 128.557 Vogue Williams

Oh, he shouldn't see it. Trails it down, please. Are they mine? Okay, we're recording now. I don't think they're yours, darling.

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128.577 - 132.503 Joanne McNally

I think he had his hand over it. If he didn't, he's got a thumb for a penis.

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133.58 - 135.984 Vogue Williams

He's a shower. He's a shower. He is a shower.

136.445 - 139.611 Joanne McNally

A significant town line. That man has clearly been in St.

139.631 - 155.758 Vogue Williams

Barts for six months. I am not somebody to send an unsolicited dick pic. I wouldn't do something like that. So I'm just wondering, is it OK for me to send you a full on picture of Spenny's when it's like... On a semi? I'll be honest. Can I send you a semi pic? Is that okay?

155.878 - 169.459 Joanne McNally

I'll be honest, folk. It's a wild, I haven't, I like to receive post. I'm traditional in that regard. Something, it'd be nice to get a physical picture. Well, yeah, it'd be nice to get something through the post that isn't from the revenue. So yes, that would be sweet.

169.439 - 170.943 Vogue Williams

Framed or unframed?

Chapter 3: How do Vogue and Joanne discuss their personal lives?

171.545 - 174.813 Vogue Williams

Unframed, if you wouldn't mind. Framing is quite expensive, as you know.

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174.833 - 183.837 Joanne McNally

Well, the second that came out of your mouth, I knew you were going to realise that was going to be an additional cost that you weren't willing to provide. So I know, I knew that I'd be framing it myself.

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184.559 - 187.463 Unknown

Perhaps you could just get it laminated. Oh, that's nice.

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187.483 - 188.043 Joanne McNally

Laminated.

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188.304 - 188.844 Vogue Williams

Yeah.

188.864 - 190.747 Joanne McNally

Like a key or turned into a key ring.

190.907 - 196.274 Vogue Williams

Oh, I could get you a key. Oh, Joanne. Hello. I could get it printed on a pillow. You're welcome. I have some news.

196.294 - 229.74 Joanne McNally

I have some news. Oh, fantastic. Yeah. I would like to announce to our listeners and any news papers that I have a surrogate Oh yeah? Who's that? Well, it was supposed to be anonymous until she went like a fucking purse trap on the beach and announced it herself to try and get the traction back towards her. It's you, Vogue, as you know.

229.8 - 244.215 Joanne McNally

I've paid you good money to have an anonymous child for me and now you just ripped it up in the Daily Mail with your own announcement pushing your belly against Spencer's. It's not even his sperm, as you know. I got it from Denmark. It's nothing to do with him.

Chapter 4: What humorous anecdotes are shared about relationships?

249.36 - 260.031 Joanne McNally

You are a carrier for my egg, Magaluf. If anyone's been to the show, they know that I'm in the market to have a child called Magaluf McNally. And I thought we were going to... I thought you were going to be a little more discreet, if I'm honest, folk.

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260.071 - 267.519 Vogue Williams

I thought this was going to be... You know I'm not discreet. I don't know what you're expecting. I obviously was going to get a bit of traction for it myself before I handed it over.

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267.999 - 275.91 Joanne McNally

Yeah, I know. Well, I would like some of the money back because there was... Some of that money did go into some level of anonymity. I was trying... I was going to try and pull off the French baby myself.

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276.772 - 286.774 Vogue Williams

Okay, well, you can forget about the hello shoot. I'm not doing the hello shoot for you. You can forget about it. We're not going to be holding hands on the cover of Hello anymore. So if you're going to take money back, I'm not having it, okay?

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288.155 - 300.69 Joanne McNally

What? I want to be on the banner of the Daily Mail. They're so brutal the way they take people on and off that banner of the Daily Mail. It's awful. It's so mean. Congratulations. Vogue is having a sixth child.

301.431 - 322.059 Vogue Williams

Yes, I am. It's very exciting news. Joanne has thankfully forgotten many times. I told Joanne when I was, I think I was like minus a week pregnant and I told Joanne that And she keeps forgetting, which is just fantastic news for me. I've had to tell Joanne, I've had to tell her four times.

323.842 - 329.851 Joanne McNally

Spencer was still napping in the wet patch and you were like, I'm pregnant. And I was like, oh my God, amazing news.

Chapter 5: How do Vogue and Joanne navigate their friendships?

329.871 - 346.085 Joanne McNally

Amazing news. And then I kept forgetting because I don't see you physically anymore, which is so sad because we're traveling all the time. And also, I guess because it's not your first pregnancy, I don't know why it just kept you and you don't really talk about it that much.

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346.847 - 354.308 Vogue Williams

No, because I feel like it's the fourth pregnancy and there's not as many people care. Exactly.

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354.288 - 382.843 Vogue Williams

that's sad for the baby it's not really sad because I had my time do you know what I mean like I'm going on to my fourth child I get this it's not my first rodeo and I'm really happy about it but I also like I have this thing where I just like I have my own reasons for not wanting to to like I just wanted to keep it for as long as I could before coming out and saying it firstly because I don't really think anyone cares that much and secondly because I just have reasonings for wanting just making sure everything's okay you know what I mean

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382.823 - 397.085 Joanne McNally

Of course. And also there's a lot of drama when people announce pregnancies and you don't want to go too soon and it's all in your own time and when you feel safe. and ready, you know?

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397.546 - 409.419 Vogue Williams

Although I did say... I didn't really feel... I didn't feel that ready. I didn't really want to. I was going to try and hold it for a little while longer, but it got... It was the... The boobs probably gave me away a lot.

409.94 - 427.181 Joanne McNally

Well, I want to say that I acknowledge that I'm part of the problem because now when I say I forgot, I kept forgetting she was pregnant, just to make me not sound like an absolute sociopath. It was that we... She told me she was... I obviously knew you were pregnant and... But then we'd make plans. And I'm like, oh my God, yeah, we'll go for pre-drinks here and blah, blah, blah.

427.201 - 443.728 Joanne McNally

And she's like, do you want her pregnant? I was like, fuck. So it wasn't that like she had to keep telling me. It wasn't like she had to keep announcing it to me. No, no, no. From Memento. Or like, it's not like I had a seven second memory. 50 first dates where she has to keep bringing me to the beach. It makes me so, you're not going to even notice.

443.708 - 453.687 Joanne McNally

But it just kept slipping my mind, I would say. It just kept slipping my mind. But in the same breath, you were away somewhere. Where were you? I assume in St.

Chapter 6: What insights are given on the dynamics of lesbian relationships?

453.707 - 466.392 Joanne McNally

Barts. And you were wearing something a little revealing. And I was like, oh my God, she looks pregnant. Straight to tattle.

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467.013 - 487.536 Joanne McNally

she's pregnant she's pregnant she's pregnant I would have I would have been I would have been screen grabbing and sending it to friends for out of nosiness I would have been like she look I don't know how you got away with it she looks to me you look pregnant because you're always quite small and I was like the rack is the rack is back the rack is back the rack is back the rack is back yeah

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487.516 - 500.28 Vogue Williams

I nearly was going to take the rack into a surgeon and be like, this is the rack I want. Just make this happen at this stage because I'm quite happy. It's so strange to have boobs. It's such a weird feeling, but I kind of like it.

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500.661 - 504.027 Joanne McNally

Yeah, of course. It's empowering. It's like me with my hair extensions.

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504.047 - 514.129 Vogue Williams

Somebody was like, how many sunflower seeds are you eating? I'm like, bucket loads. I'm like a bird. It's all I eat. Yeah, I'm on a drip.

516.513 - 528.373 Joanne McNally

So during the night, I'm still having forest-fed sunflower seeds. Obviously, now you're pregnant. This is huge news. Two questions. Yeah. Am I finally going to get the maternity leave that I deserve?

528.64 - 538.021 Vogue Williams

I'm sorry, Joanne, it's actually probably going to be worse than before because I really am trying to prove a point that pregnant people aren't incapacitated in any way.

538.241 - 544.455 Joanne McNally

But you are, Vogue, you are incapacitated. I'm incapacitated and I don't even have any children.

544.435 - 553.355 Vogue Williams

Listen, I've invited you to the labour. That's enough for you. You're getting gas and air. I'm giving you a treat this time around because it is most definitely the last time.

Chapter 7: What discussions arise around societal expectations of women?

553.435 - 562.495 Vogue Williams

So you can come in. I've already asked the doctor. She said, yeah, you can have your friend come in. And I haven't mentioned the gas and air, obviously, but you're allowed in. Well, that was my next question.

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563.437 - 576.177 Joanne McNally

Well, yes, I have you. You're already on the list. My two great hopes for this pregnancy. No, three, obviously. Healthy baby, healthy baby, ten fingers, ten toes. Healthy baby. Blah, blah, blah. So we know it's not AI, because if it's got more than that, then people will know it's AI.

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577.499 - 589.157 Joanne McNally

And the other thing is, I would like you to incapacitate yourself for a couple of weeks so me and Joe can enjoy whenever the baby's due, some time off. And also, I do want a little toke on the gas in her.

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590.183 - 603.107 Vogue Williams

I'll tell you what, if the baby comes early and it's at a time where not as many people are listening, I'll consider two weeks off. But if not, I'm afraid I shall be recording from my hospital bed. Jesus Christ.

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604.089 - 609.238 Joanne McNally

Here we fucking go again. She's going to be cutting the placenta on YouTube. Me and Gerard are going to be sitting there in the horrors.

609.556 - 613.583 Unknown

We're booked in to record a bonus episode between contractions. Yeah.

615.726 - 633.475 Joanne McNally

Perfect. Perfect. I'm like, no, Vogue, you always read the emails. It's not my job. It's not my job. Anyway, listen, congratulations. And I'm not going to say what gender I want it to be because, but I know.

Chapter 8: How do Vogue and Joanne conclude their episode?

633.515 - 634.737 Vogue Williams

I know what that is.

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635.425 - 644.835 Joanne McNally

No, no. Do you not remember what it is? I told you what it was. I do remember. I'm just saying, to be diplomatic, I would be happy with a hybrid baby. A bit of both.

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644.855 - 663.154 Vogue Williams

Okay, well, I will work on that hybrid for you. The great thing about Joanne forgetting and her being away is that she won't find me boring. And you know the way people are like, oh, she's still pregnant. So I've held it in long enough that I feel like I won't be annoying. Also, do you know what? I don't know.

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663.134 - 692.689 Vogue Williams

you might have like there's headlines that are being written about us like before I announced the baby no not about you me about me and Sven oh god and the breakup the breakup shit is the breakup shit is still there oh there's you say oh I assume it's us Not you and him. It's the other. It's the last important us. It's the other us. It's not you and I. But all the breakup stuff is still there.

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692.769 - 716.843 Vogue Williams

It's like any headline that's written about Spenny and I, it's like, oh, they're trying to get through Marvel. And it's like, sorry. And I figured out. So I know where it's arisen from because I've read it. So they've said the rumors have come from when Vogue forgot to mark her anniversary, her seventh anniversary with Spencer in November.

717.284 - 735.685 Vogue Williams

First of all, we didn't get married in November, nor did we get together in November. So I'm not just going to randomly post about being married to Spencer in November. Right. That is the month I post about my dead dad. Exactly. November is sacred.

736.085 - 742.033 Joanne McNally

It's called social strategy, okay? Okay. It's called social media strategy.

742.694 - 752.187 Vogue Williams

Vogue, can I just say... I can't post about it because my mom even hates my dad and death. I'm like, Jesus, mom, he's paid the ultimate price. Can I not post?

755.137 - 778.28 Joanne McNally

Nope. Now that is how you hold a grudge. She's offline for nine days. Poor Freddie, spinning in his grave. Listen, I've said it before and I'll say it again. Sandra knows how to hold a grudge. It's one of the most impressive things about her. But you know the way you're always, the breakup accusations, etc. Would you not? Do you know what I'd love?

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