Henry Wang on China's Role in the New Emerging World Order

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Joe Weisenthal 0:48
Hello and welcome to another episode of the Oddlots Podcast. I'm Joe Weisenthal.
Tracy Alloway 0:53
And I'm Tracy Alloway.
Joe Weisenthal 0:54
Tracy, you know, we talk all the time about US China relations multiple times a month, it seems. For obvious reasons. We you know, we usually get it from something resembling a US perspective. Not always, but I think it's a bit skewed.
Tracy Alloway 1:09
Yeah, there is a geographic bias at play
Joe Weisenthal 1:12
for sure. And a linguistic one.
Tracy Alloway 1:14
Yes. But you're right. There is always a lot going on with US-China relations, and especially recently, right? So we're recording this on September 16th. And we have Chinese and American officials gathering in I think it's Madrid to talk trade, trying to hammer out some sort of deal on the tariffs. By the time this episode comes out, maybe US China relations will have changed completely, but uh somehow I doubt it.
Joe Weisenthal 1:37
There's going to be some new era of peace. Everything is going to be solved. There's going to be no more anxiety about trade. A TikTok deal will have been made with the perfect algorithm that satisfies everyone. Everything, no, probably unlikely. Probably we are going to be talking about some version of this for a long time. I don't want to say, you know, it's not like our perspectives are just strictly US. You know, we talked to Cameron Johnson, who works in China regularly. So it's not none, but we obviously have to uh change the mix up.
Tracy Alloway 2:05
I admire your efforts at being unpartisan.
Joe Weisenthal 2:09
Well, cross border, you know, we have to still do it via Zoom, obviously, but isn't this a long historic trend to try to like build build dialogue between multiple sides and get multiple perspectives in the hopes of achieving something bigger than the other? All I'm
Tracy Alloway 2:24
gonna say is we need to go to Beijing.
Joe Weisenthal 2:26
Ugh, we need to We
Tracy Alloway 2:27
Mostly for the food, but also for uh inter US China dialogue.
Joe Weisenthal 2:31
The dream is that in twenty twenty six we host a live audience in Beijing. We're putting it out into the world right now in the hope that we can manifest it into existence.
Tracy Alloway 2:40
Yes.
Joe Weisenthal 2:40
All right. Well, I am really excited to say that in these efforts, we really do have the perfect guest. We are going to be speaking with uh Henry Wong. He is the founder and president for the Center for China and Globalization. It's the largest independent think tank in China. Someone perfectly placed to talk about all of these topics from a Chinese perspective that we don't usually get. So, Henry, thank you so much for uh coming on the podcast.
Henry Huiyao Wang 3:05
Thank you. Yeah.

Who is Henry Wang and what is the Center for China and Globalization?

Henry Huiyao Wang 3:06
My pleasure.
Joe Weisenthal 3:07
What is the Center for China and globalization? Why did you found it? What is its goal and what is this independent think tank that exists?
Henry Huiyao Wang 3:14
Yes, we actually founded uh since twenty two oh eight actually. Yeah. Right after the Beijing Olympic. You know, at that time, you know, when we watched the Beijing Olympic, the slogan uh for the Olympics then was one word, one dream. So we thought that that's actually it's a globalization and uh and China actually uh embarked on uh a globalization era because I think Olympic Beijing Olympics in two oh eight was something that China started to read a look globally and uh So that's where we we start to found this uh think tank. Uh first I have to take out a lot of uh savings. You know, I was doing a lot of business before, but we really want to start this. But I I really have found this think tank to kinda combine my experience in the government business and academic.
Henry Huiyao Wang 3:58
And also, uh you know, since then it's uh seventeen, eighteen years now and We become one of the top 100 think tanks in the world, actually ranked four times in the top country by the University of Pennsylvania think tank and the civil society program.

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