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Seahawks Win TNF Classic In OT, Week 16 Picks And Preview, Mike Florio, Joey Harrington + Fyre Fest Of The Week

19 Dec 2025

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

0.031 - 10.283 Mike Florio

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40.566 - 65.457 Mike Florio

On today's part of my take, presented by DraftKings. We have Thursday Night Football. What a fucking game to end. I know there's one more Thursday Night Football, but that was kind of the end of Thursday Night Football because we have Christmas games next week. It was incredible. Seahawks beat Rams in the overtime. We're going to talk about that game. We have NFL Week 16 picks in preview.

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65.998 - 71.685 Mike Florio

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71.665 - 92.796 Mike Florio

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93.4 - 110.359 Mike Florio

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110.399 - 127.181 Mike Florio

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Chapter 2: What happened in the Seahawks vs. Rams overtime game?

188.381 - 208.245 Mike Florio

It had incredible Puka Nakua, incredible Matthew Stafford. We had a two point conversion that made no sense that swung the game, but the Seahawks did it. They outlasted the Rams and they are now looking like if they can win their last two games, they will have the one seed in the NFC for the playoffs. The Seahawks have tiger blood.

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208.606 - 227.586 Mike Florio

We had an instance of Sam Darnold turning into a pumpkin and then the reverse pumpkin. Yeah. He came back from being a pumpkin today. So I saw the first half. I went on stage at Pup Punk, and I had a guy in the front row that was assigned to tell me every score update. And I announced to the crowd halfway through, the Seattle Seahawks are dead. Mm hmm.

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227.606 - 239.522 Mike Florio

And then he held up his he held up his phone and he showed me the the score. I saw the two point conversion. Absolutely insane. I got off stage, ran backstage, turn around the start of overtime.

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Chapter 3: What are the key takeaways from the NFL Week 16 preview?

239.883 - 261.282 Mike Florio

What what an incredible game. I wish I could have seen the entire thing. But football's so back. It was back. It was so back. So, yeah, the game basically was over, it felt like, because the Rams were up 15. They had all the control. Sam Donald had thrown his second pick of the night. He had thrown a pick six earlier in the night. Or actually, it wasn't a pick six. It was down at the one.

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261.723 - 287.997 Mike Florio

But it looked like the Seahawks were deader than dead. And then... The guy they traded for, which was a great move, another sign that, hey, it's okay to add pieces even if you think you're a really good team. I always screwed up. Rashid Shahid with the punt return. And then the Rams had a 45-second drive, three and out. And then the Seahawks go right back down the field.

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288.377 - 311.873 Mike Florio

Sam Darnold picks him apart, scores a touchdown. And the two-point conversion where it was a backwards pass off a helmet and then a clear recovery. 30-30, go to overtime. It was crazy. And then, I mean, we had a missed kick in there after that. Like, the Rams had a chance. Al Michaels was an all-time jinx. Al Michaels, by the way, we love you, Al. That's all I'll say.

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312.034 - 326.531 Mike Florio

The punt return was not exactly the greatest call of all time. But we love you, Al. It's a little bit late. It got late for Al. Yeah. I'll give him a pass. Well, he is on Pacific time, so it wasn't that late. It's a little bit late for Al.

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326.551 - 327.032 Hank

It was a little late.

327.052 - 351.642 Mike Florio

But, yeah, I heard the jinx. I feel like Al might have just had Seattle Moneyline. Yeah, he might have because it was crazy. They were so dead, and they scored 16 points in what felt like four minutes of real time, and it was two and a half minutes of game time. It was crazy. It was crazy. And the Seahawks...

351.622 - 369.445 Mike Florio

Both teams, I feel like, were just playing at an elite level, and both teams are just scary as scary could be because the Seahawks had no answer for Puka Nukua, absolutely ripped him to shreds, and then the Rams had really no answer for Sam Darnold when he caught fire.

369.425 - 397.137 Mike Florio

in the second half after after the punt return and he went right down the field in overtime a perfect drive he it was like jsn did nothing in the first half then he realized oh yeah jsn's really good started hitting him everything started working just two really good teams that's all i like that's my biggest takeaway is i even though the seahawks won and they they they are firmly win and have you know if you win out you get the one seed i walked away being like those two teams are really fucking good

397.724 - 423.478 Mike Florio

Yeah, maybe NFC Championship preview. Let these guys play three times. Rubber match. Yeah. And the Niners also control their own destiny now. Yeah, they do. It's the Niners and the Seahawks. It's a double destiny. And can I just say, this is my first time seeing the studio right now. Yeah. Zach. Tune into PMTV today. We will have the full Zach experience of dressing up the studio. Zach.

Chapter 4: What insights are shared about the Jets' quarterback situation?

3644.423 - 3661.407 Mike Florio

Geno Smith was drafted, right? Yeah. Yes, he was drafted by the Jets. Ryan Fitzpatrick. Okay. Wow. I think this might be true. Just mean? No, it's not mean. Also, it's not true. It does feel like it's going to be mean. You're hitting me with one mean one.

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3661.447 - 3662.067 Unknown

No, it's not.

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3662.147 - 3665.19 Mike Florio

It's not mean, and it's also not true. I just fact-checked it.

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3665.23 - 3665.611 Hank

What was it?

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3665.711 - 3691.022 Mike Florio

It was that this is the 14th consecutive year the Jets have started an undrafted rookie at quarterback in Week 15. That's just not true. There's no way. There is a lot of years, though. Bryce Petty wasn't drafted, right? Luke Falk wasn't drafted. Mike White wasn't drafted. Tim Boyle wasn't drafted. Was drafted. But Aaron Rodgers played every game last year, so it's not true. Yes. Can't be true.

3691.042 - 3692.123 Unknown

Bryce Petty was drafted.

3692.143 - 3693.324 Mike Florio

Oh, Bryce Petty was drafted.

Chapter 5: What are the implications of Joe Burrow's recent comments?

3693.845 - 3706.777 Mike Florio

Fourth round. Ryan Fitzpatrick wasn't drafted. No. Or was he a seventh round draft pick? I don't think he was drafted. Either way, that's not true, so it doesn't matter. Follow that. Not true, but sounds like it could.

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3706.797 - 3709.28 Unknown

Ryan Fitzpatrick was a seventh round draft pick. Oh, all right.

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3709.3 - 3723.537 Mike Florio

So this stat is not even close to true. Yeah. That was our fun game of not a true stat, but makes you think. Good luck against Shuck memes. Are you intimidated by the Cook versus Shuck matchup?

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3723.557 - 3724.158 Big Cat

No, not really.

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3724.179 - 3745.652 Mike Florio

It brought us to. We are doing Brady cooking. There's also a reason why Max loves Shuck. Yeah. Whose offense are they running? Kellen Moore. Good offense. Yeah. That's why I love him. Is that why you love him? He misses the offense. That's his offense. Are you closing your eyes and thinking about Shuck playing for the Eagles? You're sitting in the Shuck chair.

Chapter 6: How does the discussion about the Bengals' cheapness impact their reputation?

3746.373 - 3747.915 Mike Florio

You're over in the corner. You're getting shucked.

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3748.075 - 3752.902 Unknown

We're allowed to have guys on other teams. We've always had guys.

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3753.302 - 3776.535 Mike Florio

No, you're thinking about another man shucking your team. You're in the corner of the hotel room. Don't ruin shuck for me. That's what it is. Memes, good call. Don't ruin shuck for me. I like shuck. I'm allowed to like shuck. Yeah, if you get off on that. I want to get shucked up. I found the stat. Dan Hanses tweeted it and then followed up with, guys, this was a joke. Jeez. Got it. Okay.

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3776.916 - 3796.45 Mike Florio

Which is a funny joke because it is. Who knows? You could believe it, yeah. Memes, I do think at some point we're going to get the Brady-Cook game. It just sounds too perfect, doesn't it? It does sound too perfect. Yeah. I don't think it's going to happen. Well, the Saints defense is actually pretty good against the pass.

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3796.851 - 3818.697 Mike Florio

Some of that has to do with the fact that teams haven't needed to pass against the Saints a lot. But if you look at the total stats, they're not bad against the pass. But I think in one of these weeks there will be a Brady-Cook game, and I think the threshold for the Brady-Cook game is probably 250 yards, two touchdowns. I don't think it's happening this week.

3818.717 - 3839.198 Mike Florio

The Saints defense has been playing well. I like the Saints this week. Tyler Shuck. Love the Saints. We're going to go Shuck. We're going to Shuck it up. We're going to Shuck things up. We did get to the bottom of that. That is why Max loves them. Why? You pervert. What? Oh, the sitting in the corner in the Shuck chair thing. Oh, yeah, yeah. He's thinking about Shuck on the Eagles.

3839.245 - 3846.098 Unknown

The real reason I like him is I'm in a high-stake dynasty fantasy league, and I picked him in the third round.

3846.218 - 3847.801 Mike Florio

Oh, why did you say that?

3848.282 - 3850.065 Unknown

Because no one cares about your fantasy team.

Chapter 7: What are the key issues surrounding stadium financing in the NFL?

7423.184 - 7440.863 Joey Harrington

That's stadium financing. It's stadium politics in the NFL. Look back to the Raiders. Mark Davis was stuck in Oakland. Oakland wasn't going to give him a penny for his stadium. All of a sudden, Las Vegas says, we'll give you $750 million. Boom, it's done. So not all players have that alternative because they're not going to move out of Chicago. That's the problem.

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7441.284 - 7445.655 Joey Harrington

Until you are a serious threat to relocate, no one is going to give you what you're looking for.

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7445.635 - 7453.729 Mike Florio

Yeah. It's just open letters on open letters on open letters. And this is Kevin Warren's job. This is what he's hired to do. And it's just nothing has changed.

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Chapter 8: What are the implications of player relocations for NFL teams?

7453.749 - 7462.243 Mike Florio

And I I've taken the I took the philosophy a while ago of like until I actually see a shovel in the ground, I'm not going to believe it. So who like just let me know when that happens.

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7463.573 - 7480.266 Joey Harrington

What's wrong with Soldier Field? I understand all these teams want domes now because they want to have events all year long. We see these great weather games, and I feel bad for the people who have to stand out there and freeze, especially if the snow hasn't been removed from the seats. But they look so good. The Bills-Bengals game looks so good.

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7480.246 - 7494.102 Joey Harrington

a couple of games this year where the snow is just kind of wafting. It reminded me of the 85 NFC championship Rams bears. You know, I, we're going to lose that. These teams want new stadiums that are domes. The Browns are building a dome. The bears want to dump.

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7494.162 - 7508.199 Joey Harrington

Thank God the bills decided to stay outdoors, but it's going to come down to the bills, the Packers, the Steelers, the Eagles, the giants, unless they build a dome at some point. So there's going to be fewer and fewer of these open air games when we get to December and we can enjoy some snow. I agree.

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7508.579 - 7528.672 Mike Florio

I mean, the problem with Soldier Field is it's not the nicest stadium. It's the smallest stadium. And I think that that's, you know, they see the events that can happen, whether it be concerts, Final Fours, Big Ten Championship Games, Super Bowls. Like, that's what they're looking at. And also the game day experience. Getting out of Soldier Field is the worst part of Soldier Field. It's not great.

7528.812 - 7530.655 Mike Florio

It's pretty much, you would hate it if you went there.

7533.098 - 7549.88 Joey Harrington

Well, but the reality is they're going to move how many miles away, how many minutes away out of downtown Chicago? It just is weird that the Browns are moving out of downtown Cleveland, the Bears out of downtown Chicago. The Steelers, if they would move out of downtown Pittsburgh, that would be so bizarre. I'm so familiar with so many of the suburbs around Pittsburgh.

7549.9 - 7567.925 Joey Harrington

It would be weird to drop a football stadium in one of these towns like Bridgeville or Cannonsburg or something like that. But that's what these teams are looking to do. They just want land. It's all about... It's all about money. You need the land and you want the money. And you want a municipality that's going to bend over and let you basically get whatever you want.

7568.285 - 7587.372 Joey Harrington

And that's what these teams want to do because they're so accustomed to it. That's the way that the world has gone. Very rarely does someone just say, screw it, I'm going to write the check. Stan Kroenke did for $5 or $6 billion to build SoFi Stadium. But for the most part, the game is we want someone who's going to defray the cost of this stadium.

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