D-Day and the Cycles of American Reinvention

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Why does the episode open with a look back at D‑Day and its relevance to today’s geopolitics?

Christian Smith 0:06
Hello and welcome to this podcast from Geopolitical Futures. I'm Christian Smith. Over the weekend, the world marked the 82nd anniversary of the Normandy invasions during the Second World War. D-Day was the world's largest amphibious invasion ever. It exemplified what America and its allies were capable of when confronted with an overwhelming threat. And with an America divided and a geopolitical system in flux, Operation Overlord holds many lessons for geopolitics today.
Christian Smith 0:50
So on this episode of the podcast, we look back at D-Day, and I am joined by Geopolitical Futures chairman and founder George Friedman to discuss what we can learn from that day 82 years ago and whether the same lessons still hold true. George, hello. Aye there. Uh it has become fairly common refrain, I think, in recent months and years that America is in decline. Uh many who oppose Trump see his presidency as evidence of this, although obviously that very much depends on your persuasion. Uh and then meanwhile, uh in China, Xi Jinping, in the mo more recent uh uh recent history, in the last few weeks really, he's been conducting something of a a series Of high-profile diplomatic meetings, in in some ways, as some people have said, uh, to to display his diplomatic, his international authority.
Christian Smith 1:43
He's met with people like Vladimir Putin, Kim Jong-un, the Pakistani Prime Minister, the British Prime Minister, and of course Donald Trump. Uh I suppose, George, I want to ask you whether or not you agree with the suggestion that America is on the way down and China is on the way up.
Unknown 2:00
Well
George Friedman 2:01
I lived through the nineteen seventies. I've read about the civil war. I've read about the Great Depression. An America's chaos during that time.
Edward James Olmos 2:15
And What I see is
George Friedman 2:19
A normal process in the United States. Which to the outside world appears to be A meltdown. But in fact, is doing what Americans do best. reinventing themselves. The United States was an invented country. Not only was the Constitution. The founding of this country An engineering project held at a meeting. But the population of the United States is invented. Except for the native Indians. Everyone else came from somewhere else usually because they were desperately unhappy where they were. So the population of the United States is invented in that sense. The nation's invented essence, and therefore there's a principle. Obsolescence must be overcome. Reinvent, reinvent. And when the United States goes through this.
George Friedman 3:16
And it's a difficult process, obviously. The world looks at it and says the United States is finished. Well, the evidence of our fall. It's gonna be disappointing to people. Because this is very normal. You go back to the seventies, Vietnam, you go back to the Great Depression, you go back to the Civil War, no one thought we'd recover. We always do.
Christian Smith 3:44
We're gonna come on to D Day in a moment, but just just pulling at that string, I suppose it's interesting. Just before we started recording, I saw a column in the uh Financial Times which said that Trump is at in danger of turning into Jimmy Carter, speaking of the nineteen seventies, and obviously that's in relation to Iran. Back then obviously, uh uh and in the late sixties, uh listeners will be very aware of the conflict that America was in. A lot of that came around elections. We've got the midterms coming up at this stage, current polling uh suggests that we're gonna get even more division. George, you wrote in your book The Storm Before the Calm, uh, about this storm that we're coming through at the moment.
Christian Smith 4:30
Is it about to get a lot heavier, do you think?
George Friedman 4:34
Certainly w as many times in the past since eighty years The United States has been involved in various wars. Mostly lost. Rarely prudent. but carried out for various reasons. So if you believe that this is a stunning moment in American history practically unprecedented, you have to ignore Afghanistan. You've got to ignore Vietnam, Iraq, you've got to ignore American history for the next eighty years. The oddity here is that Trump ran against that history. He was going to create a new

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