That Was Us
Brother Bonding Gone Wrong | "Brothers" (S2E5) with special guest Caitlin Thompson
Tue, 03 Dec 2024
Join us as we recap "Brothers," the episode that shows us the inner workings of not only Randall and Kevin’s brotherly bond (or lack thereof) but Jack’s complicated relationship with, surprise, his own brother! We'll delve into Jack's complex relationship with his father, the discovery of his brother Nicky, and the lingering impact of their childhood trauma. We'll also discuss Kevin's turn towards painkillers, the heartwarming breakthrough between Randall and Deja, and Ka-Toby sharing the excitement of Kate’s pregnancy together. And that's not all! The wonderful Caitlin Thompson, who plays Madison, joins us to share the inside scoop on how her character came to be on the show. That Was Us is produced by Rabbit Grin Productions. Follow That Was Us on YouTube, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, Threads, and X! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Chapter 1: What episode are we discussing today?
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 5, Brothers. Kate drops a bombshell on Toby, Kevin and Randall attend a charity fundraiser for Sophie's hospital, and Jack takes the boys on a camping trip, leaving Rebecca to deal with some unexpected news.
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How's it going, everybody? Hello, hello.
Hello, hello. We're back.
Okay, so we've been off for a while. Yeah, there was a short maternity leave. Short maternity leave. So this is our first episode with Mandy Moore as the mother of three. Mandy Moore, how are you?
I'm great, guys. I'm so happy to see your faces. I missed you.
You look very bright-eyed and bushy-tailed to have a baby at the crib.
Oh, you're so kind.
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Chapter 2: What is Jack's relationship with his father?
Yeah. I'm so happy to be back with you guys and happy to have the excuse to like jump back into watching the show.
Yes.
Wow. And we like jump back in with a real dynamite episode.
Both feet in. So this is entitled Brothers, right?
And we're back with John and Glenn, directors of the pilot, the Super Bowl, some really like seminal episodes of the show.
Yeah. And we're having a good time. And we're starting off in the past with, with Jack is gonna take the boys on a camping trip, right? They've been sort of like at each other's throats a little bit and not even sort of at each other's throats. I would say that like Kev's feelings towards Randall are just like, I've kind of had enough.
They're really settling into their distaste for each other.
And less Randall for Kevin, obviously. It's deeply steeped in Kevin, though.
He's so annoyed. You see a bit of Randall trying to figure out how to be with his brother. Yeah. But he is Randall, and he is a lot. I think it's important to say that Randall's not... perfect or anything like that. Like Randall is a big personality and he kind of needs a lot of things. And sometimes Kev's like, you're giving, you're doing the most.
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Chapter 3: How does Kevin's painkiller addiction affect his family?
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There's two little things that I just want to mention. Yes, ma'am. Because I feel like it's something that people took from this particular scene. It's something that's mentioned later on in the course of the show. But just when Rebecca is talking about parenthood to Kate and tells her that it's like being a mom, being a parent is like a front row seat to the best show on earth. Yeah.
being a parent and like still like very newly, like postpartum, I was just like, oh my God, that's so true. But it's something that's echoed later on in the show. And I just, you know, it kind of reminds me a little bit of the, like, there's no lemon sour enough that you can't make something resembling lemonade.
And Rebecca telling Jack that she's a miracle after meeting Stanley, like you are a miracle that like you came from this man, you came this, this life that was given to you that somehow you were, you were this, this husband and father now is just like beyond miraculous.
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Chapter 4: What breakthroughs occur between Randall and Deja?
Period.
Yes. I mean, we were talking earlier today about future episodes, a couple moving forward in the season, his particular episode, episode one, number one or whatever. But yes, you're right. This arc that Justin is taking us on as Kevin Pearson right now is just, it's flat out extraordinary.
It's extraordinary. Yeah. Okay, so wait, we got to condense, because I feel like we've waxed poetically for a while now. So Kev's going to go to this gala for Sophie, where he's going to be auctioned off as a fundraiser for the hospital, et cetera. And Randall is telling him, hey, be careful around Deja. She's adjusting to a new environment. She's having a tough time, whatnot.
Don't talk about her hair. Just sort of keep things cool. So he's like, yeah, cool. Kev goes downstairs. He plays teasingly with Deja. What's that? Takes a piece of bacon off her plate. She adores him.
Like he instantly is able to connect with her in a way that Randall's like- The too muchness of Randall. And the charm of Kevin.
Right, at odds with each other completely. So he's talking about how he's got to go to the thing tonight. She's like, uh, can I go? And Randall's like, yeah, yeah, of course you can. Like, I'll take you. And he's like, do you think she should be going to this thing right now? Sort of fancy things like, look, she's expressing interest. We got to jump on it while we can.
Like, Randall just completely and totally excited about this whole thing. He does this thing. Him and Beth had this great conversation. He's like, just be cool. He's like, yo, that's Randall Cool Pearson. That's my middle name. She's like, oh Lord, you're gonna mess this all up. She's like, cool means normal. He's like, no, it doesn't. Cool means cool. And so they go out.
You see him just talking to Deja, constantly just trying to find any thread of something to connect to. And she's like, bro. That's not happening. It's not about you right now. I'm trying to go see the Manny. She loves the Manny. We make it to the gala and you see Kev is still not his best self right now, but he's still very charming to Deja.
She has a little bit of a look when he says, introduces her to his girlfriend and she's like, Oh, she got a girl. All right, all right. Let me readjust my expectations right now. They go to the auction part and Sophie's very excitedly introducing Kev, who is nowhere to be found.
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Chapter 5: What is the significance of the camping trip in the episode?
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Your home might be worth more than you think. Find out how much at Airbnb.com slash host. Ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the That Was Us podcast, Caitlin Thompson. Yay, Kate! What's going on, sister?
Who you may know as Madison. That is Madison. Kate's dear friend, fiance to my brother Kevin, and just all around good person.
Baby mama to you.
Baby mama, excuse me. Baby mama of twins.
Yes.
Let me not gloss over that.
That is an important plot line. Big plot point.
Kate, how are you doing today?
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Chapter 6: How do childhood traumas shape the Pearson brothers?
Well, if it helps your writing, hold us in your mind. Hold... if you need to hear a voice if you need to hear a voice if the character needs to sound a certain way some of us are unemployed i am you know if yeah if you just if you need someone to read something for you let us know i want to get the dream team back together yeah please anytime there you go i'm like fan fiction alternate
i mean i love you guys you guys know that i would kill to work with any of you at any time in any capacity you guys it goes both ways pitch this pitch we pit we came up with this idea yesterday pitch this to dan while you guys are bouncing ideas around is that the the whole first season of sterling's new show paradise is just one of randall's uh anxiety dreams and he wakes up and it's and it's a prequel to the next season of this is us you wouldn't believe it oh my god
We do the Dallas.
We do the Dallas. We can make it work. It's all good. Kate, thank you so much for making time to hang with us. Hopefully you'll come back later as we get into more Madison-specific storylines or what have you. But it's great to see you as always. And tell your husband we said hey.
Good to see you guys. See you soon.
Good to see you too.
Yeah, thanks, Kate.
Thank you, Kate.
See you guys.
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