Deja & Shauna's Past | "This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life" (S2E17) with special guest Joy Brunson

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What is the main topic of this episode?

Mandy 0:10
On today's episode of That Was Us, we will be discussing Season 2, Episode 17, This Big, Amazing, Beautiful Life. Through a powerful series of flashbacks, we witness Deja's journey from birth to the present as she navigates her mother's struggles, deals with the insanity of the foster system, and ultimately finds her way into Randall and Beth's home.
Joy Brunson 0:33
Hello, hello.
Unknown 0:34
What's going on, gang?
Joy Brunson 0:36
Wow, this episode was a doozy.
Unknown 0:38
It really, really was.
Sterling 0:40
It was one that I... I watched every episode of this show, but this was one that felt completely new to me. Me too. Rewatching it, I was like, there was so much about it that I didn't remember. Although I do remember like... Just the idea of it, of when people talked about our show, I loved to reference this episode, which was pretty much entirely about a character that wasn't the Pearsons. Right. And following her story and journey and how unique that was in our storytelling sort of device. Yeah. That our audience trusted us enough to be able to do these kinds of episodes. So I remembered in that sense, but then like getting into the nitty gritty and the little details, it is heartbreaking.
Unknown 1:27
It really is. A couple things, real quick. There's an episode of our show that has Pam Grier as a guest star, and I got to do nothing with her.
Joy Brunson 1:39
I'm sorry. I thought about that.
Unknown 1:41
I want to tell K.O. Yegun, who wrote this episode, shame on you. I've been watching Pam Grier my whole life, Jack, and you didn't let Brown have nothing to do with Pam Grier? I'm not happy. Yeah. Because Pam Grier is bad.

How did Deja's journey begin?

Mandy 1:54
She bad, like, not bad being bad. When I saw Pam Grier come on the screen, I was like, oh, right. Because I've been watching Pam Grier as well. I thought to myself, I'm like, I don't know what the... the kind of Mount Rushmore of, what'd you say, bad bitches? Is that what you said? Something like that. But she's on it. She's up there. She's on it.
Unknown 2:15
She's outstanding. Yeah, yeah. Point number two that I want to make, and it's what you were talking about, Mandy. To find a young lady that you can trust to anchor an episode of television. Yeah, yeah.
Joy Brunson 2:26
Like Lyric Ross.
Unknown 2:28
Lyric Nicole. I'm going to believe the whole name. That little girl. Yeah. She's grown now. She's 21. Yeah. But that little girl... She wasn't playing around. She wasn't playing around. And she was, it was great. We'll get to everybody else in it too, because everybody else is wonderful. But like, you got a little girl holding it together, man.
Sterling 2:52
So quietly.
Joy Brunson 2:53
Yes. But confidently. It's, yeah, it's really remarkable. She's just outstanding. She's something special.
Unknown 3:02
She's something special. So where do we want to start on this one?
Sterling 3:05
I guess where the episode starts, which is sort of, we see echoes of this throughout the entirety of the episode. And this is something we were talking about just a few minutes ago, but like it begins with Deja's birth and the birth of all of the Pearsons. It was Rebecca birthing the big three. It was Randall's mom birthing him. It was Beth birthing Tess. I mean, so it's just like... I think to sort of illustrate the point that you were making just a few minutes ago, it's like we're all connected. We all share this like same DNA of what our lives are. Ultimately, there's violence, there's death, there's life, there's immense joy and every color and shade in between. And I think like throughout this episode, it was sort of peppered with those moments of like, this is what Deja's lived experience is. But also here's some of these, like the connective tissue of the Pearsons and the people that love her and will become sort of intertwined in her life. Like this is something they've also experienced as well.
Unknown 4:09
Right. There's something about, I think, I don't know if it's modern society or human nature in general. It's probably human nature where we look around. first and foremost for the things that separate us from one another. Like I'm black, you're white, you're male, you're female, dah, dah, dah, because it feels like division or something gives us something to sort of like contextualize why this justifies how I behave while you're that thing. So it's okay for you to behave that way, right? And we find all these differences and stuff.

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