David Frum: Both Pro-Jesus and Pro-Sex Trafficking

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Who is David Frum and what is his latest work about?

Tim Miller 0:08
Hello and welcome to the Bullard Podcast. I'm your host, Tim Miller. He's back. He's a staff writer at The Atlantic, author of 10 books, most recently, Trumpocalypse. It's David Frum. What's happening, Frum?
David Frum 0:18
Hey there. I'm just back from almost a month in Austria, so now catching up with the world.
Tim Miller 0:23
How are the folks in Austria thinking about what's happening here stateside? Well, I have to confess, I was mostly talking about ski snow quality.
David Frum 0:32
Good. How was the ski snow quality? We were very lucky with the ski snow quality. But we were escaping the month of February and on a ski hill, my wife and I and two little dogs.
Tim Miller 0:41
Well, that sounds lovely. Well, on the topic of Trumpocalypse, I was perusing your social media feeds, and I saw this nice summation of where things stand. Egg shortages, fatal measles outbreaks, airplane crashes, crypto scams, tariffs, betrayal of allies, pardons and special favors for insurrectionists, crooked mayors, and online pimps. The American people have voted for change. I guess we'll get to all of those topics. Which one?
David Frum 1:05
I guess dealer's choice on which one you want to start with. Let's talk about eggs, because I have a serious point to make about that. It goes to a big structural problem in American politics. The price of eggs has almost quadrupled since fall. If you're in the restaurant industry and you're buying high-end eggs, you're looking at $8 a dozen.

Why are egg prices rising and how is it affecting politics?

David Frum 1:23
If you go to Walmart in the DC area, it's about $6 a dozen. There are some at $5.97, but a few at higher than $6. Now, Everybody listening to this podcast, every Democratic politician in Congress knows this isn't exactly Trump's fault. There's an avian flu. The herd of egg laying chickens has been culled and there's a genuine economic shortage. So Democrats are hesitant to blame the president for something that's obviously not his fault. In 2022, the price of beef ran up. And it ran up for because during COVID, there had been people in the beef processing plants that had to sit farther apart from one another, reducing the efficiency of the plants. There was a drought. And so beef cattle were arriving at slaughter less heavy than usual.
David Frum 2:09
It wasn't Biden's fault. Did that stop the Trump people? It did not. There is a great novel about the rise of the Nazi, published in 1934, very prophetically, called The Operments. And I recommend it to you. And at one point, one of the characters says, our opponents have a great advantage over us, and that is their absolute lack of any sense of fairness. And I think you see in the beef versus the eggs, that dynamic at work. The Trump people knew it wasn't Biden's fault. It was, you know, there was a pandemic. The people in the processing plants had to sit farther apart. A lot of the processing workers got sick and there was a drought. So the beef cattle were less heavy. It wasn't the president's fault that the price of beef went up.
David Frum 2:47
That didn't stop them. Democrats know it's not the president's fault. The price of eggs is up, but it does stop them. I don't know how you do politics in a country where people respond to price cues so intensely. And one party says, we're going to be responsible about economic causation. And the other party says, the hell with that. No, we're not.
Tim Miller 3:06
That's a fair point. And I think I've been thinking about this on the eggs thing, because you do see pundits like liberal pundits talking about it a lot or anti-Trump pundits more than politicians. So you see it some from politicians. I think Ruben Gallego mentioned it on the pod on Wednesday. One thing I notice is the other side also has the benefit is of they're so shameless about In the argumentation, Trump is so shameless that it's almost easy for him to say, this is Sleepy Joe's fault. He's asleep at the switch. It's Joe Biden's fault. And sometimes even when the Democrats, I notice, do try to pin this on Trump, it's like in an ironic way where I almost feel like they're criticizing the voters, not Trump themselves. The voters were too dumb. Yeah.

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