Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
On this episode of the Commercial Break. I'd say really when you get down to the last 13 pieces in the loaf of bread, throw that away with the twisty tie and the plastic. If you put any plastic bowls in your cabinets, you are smiting the Lord, according to Kenny. But if someone asks you for your furniture, give it to them. Sleep on a box. Amen. This is serious. It's very serious. We don't see it.
But it's in the spirit. And there are spirits involved.
Chapter 2: What unconventional advice is given about grocery shopping?
Amen. Amen. Can you imagine sitting in this audience and believing any of this? I would be like, honey, we have got to go. What is he fucking talking about? None of it. The next episode of the commercial break starts now. Oh, yeah, cats and kittens, welcome back to the commercial break. I'm Brian Greene. This is my dear friend and the co-host of this show, Crystal Joy Hoadley.
Best to you, Crystal. Best to you, Brian. Best to you out there in the podcast universe. How the hell are you? Thanks for joining us today. Chrissy, how are you feeling? Are you feeling the pinch in your pocket at the grocery store? I am. God, I just went grocery shopping the other day. I was like, what? Wow. Woohoo!
I have so many people living in this household that when I go to the grocery store, nary a $50 bill isn't spent on the smallest of things. I go in for like six items, I spend $50. I don't understand it. It's hard to believe that just six years ago, we were paying so much less for everything. A gallon of milk, $1.99. Now it's $3.99 for a gallon of milk. I mean, even things like,
Well, even things like garlic powder. I needed garlic powder, you know, ran out, needed it for a recipe. I went to go get it. It was like five or six dollars. That's insane. It's insane. I almost, almost, almost am thinking about decoupling from Starbucks because it's gotten out of control. Oh, it has, too. Yeah, and I know the tariffs have a lot to do with it, but let's be honest about it.
Starbucks has always been expensive. It's always been way ahead of the coffee curve. You could go to a good local coffee shop that farms their beans from co-ops down in Costa Rica or wherever, and you could pay $3.99 for a good cup of iced coffee. I'm paying $7.99. Yeah. But it is a huge cup of coffee. It is. That is for sure.
But $10, almost every time I go there, when you factor in a dollar tip, it's almost $10. Yeah. It's everything is out of control. The only thing that I will say doesn't seem to be going too crazy are the gas prices right now, because at least not here in Georgia. You know, we can still fill up our car for a reasonable amount of money. Small car, $30, big car, $80.
I remember during the pandemic, at times we were paying over $100 to fill up that big car. Oh, God. And thinking even back to 2008. Oh, my God. Yeah. So expensive. Listen, consumer debt is climbing. More and more people are using their credit cards to live on a daily basis. Most of us live paycheck to paycheck. That is just... That that's how most people have always lived.
But now more than ever, that's how people lived. And, you know, it's hard out there. It's hard to make a living. It's hard to put two months together in a row where you feel comfortable with money.
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Chapter 3: How are rising grocery prices affecting consumers?
It's hard not to feel the pinch every once in a while. Your paycheck doesn't even go as far as it used to. That's right. You know, you have to make it up somehow. And that oftentimes is a credit card. A credit card, a credit card. But then that credit card is just is leading to more misery. It's leading to more debt. There are very few of us that are completely credit card debt free.
Very few of us, at least in the socioeconomic ladder that I'm living in, which is, you know, making two hundred and fifty thousand dollars or less a year. You know, there's a lot of people who are using those credit cards and credit. Getting massive amounts of debt rolling and just figuring at some point I'll win the lottery and I'll pay it off.
I think that's a retirement strategy for a lot of people. I'll win the lottery. I'll start a business. I'll have that next great idea that the cookies that I'm baking will start selling on Facebook and people will go crazy for them. It does happen. Of course it does. There are lots of people who...
become fabulously wealthy being entrepreneurs, doing something for themselves or winning the lottery. But you have a better chance of getting struck by lightning than you do winning the lottery. I say all this to say that it's a tough time to be a person in the United States of America that's not fabulously wealthy or have some friends that are fabulously wealthy. It's really, really tough.
But luckily for all of us, Chrissy, I have found a solution to debt, and that is to give more money to the prosperity preachers. Oh, well, yeah, because then it's going to come back to you. Tenfold, according to Leviticus 34.75-22. And, you know, we have often scorned prosperity preachers here on the show.
But after listening to some of their mumbo jumbo while doing research for this episode, I think they might be on to something. Really? I don't want to keep it a secret. Yes. Yes. I don't want to keep it a secret. I don't want to keep it. How else did Kenny Copeland get four, not one, not two, not three, four private planes? The Lord. The Lord. He must have prayed to the Lord.
That's what Jesus was all about. Private planes and fancy shoes and, you know, private champagne rooms at strip clubs. Yes. If Jesus didn't teach us one, if Jesus taught us one thing and one thing only, it's to, Speak his word and ask for money at the same time.
And when you do that, by also then, you know, making sure that people know they're going to go to hell and, you know, burn for eternity if they don't give you their money. If you do that, then you too can be fabulously wealthy tax-free because that's a huge loophole in the government's tax policy.
So I don't want to waste another minute talking about any other kind of debt relief programs like calling a credit counselor or actually starting to pay down your bills or asking your boss for more money or getting a second job or, you know, cutting the cord on a couple of your streaming services. Those are hard. Those are sacrifices I am not willing to make.
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Chapter 4: What are the challenges of managing consumer debt today?
How super crazy is it that guys like Kenny Copeland are on their fourth airplane? That is crazy. I really, I mean, what, four? And there are people in every row of his church that are desperately, desperately looking for any extra money that they can get. And he's telling them that they will certainly burn in hell if they don't give every dollar possible to his church.
And he's willing to flaunt it. Not only does he speak about it, not only does he use all of that money tax-free, not only is he absolutely dripping in wealth and gold and riches and lives a lifestyle that very few people will ever experience ā But then he gets up and he talks down to people about how they're not spending enough money on him. This is the scourge of religion right now.
And if you don't believe that, just like we were talking about the other day with politics and politicians, if you saw some ā in any other business, if you saw somebody else doing that, taking people's money, making themselves fabulously wealthy ā not doing a lot of good with it, and then refusing to give back when you needed something, you would probably consider them a dirt bag.
But if you open up the Bible and you start speaking some mumbo-jumbo of the tens of thousands of words that are in that Bible, and you twist those words to fit your purpose... Then God asked you to do it. Then it makes sense. Don't, don't fall for this scam because that's exactly what it is. It's a scam. Believe in Jesus. Read the Bible. Go to the church.
Go to your local church that has like a fair to raise some money, right? I mean, I remember when I was a kid, I mean, listen, the Catholic church is like the worst of the worst offenders. But they don't have prosperity preachers up there. They have priests who largely live in poverty their entire lives, but the church puts them up. Housing, food, rent, usually a car, something like that, right?
I'm not saying one is better than the other. They're all bad. But I remember like, you know, they would take money, sure, but then they would have like a fair. Or bake sales. Bake sales, whatever, you know, clothing drive, whatever it was.
Go to your local community church where the guy or the girl standing up front isn't fabulously wealthy because of the money you're giving, but it's going in the door and then back out the door to the community to do some good, to feed some kids, to help somebody get through a childhood cancer diagnosis or help somebody through a tough time.
Or you can go to the church when you're having a tough time and they say, hey, listen, this is exactly why we have this money. You can't pay rent this month. We'll help you out. Pay it back when you can. Go to that church. That makes sense. I guarantee that if you go to Kenny Copeland or Jesse Duplantis or whoever, name them. There's a million of them right now.
If you go to any of those people that are flying around these $50 million planes and driving $500,000 cars, I guarantee if you go to any of those people and you're having a problem, they're going to tell you that's your problem, not God's problem. Pray on it. Pray on it. That's right. It's fucked up. It's fucked up! I hate it. I know. It really drives me crazy. I'm sorry. It really does.
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Chapter 5: How do prosperity preachers justify their wealth?
Why not? Why do you get to drive it? But I don't. Fuckers. All of them. Fuckers. And they're taking money left and right. Zero taxes. Zero accountability. Zero responsibility. Now, the good news is there are a couple of people out there. Religion as a business, I think, is the Instagram account that I started following. They're putting together a documentary on people like Kenny Copeland.
And they are starting to hold some of these people accountable. Like, okay, you have to let us know where this money went because you're a nonprofit. Tell us where the money went. And there's holes in all of the stories, right? Oh, I'm sure. People are buying, you know, all kind of preachers are buying all kind of real estate everywhere, but they're not reporting it.
And then they're selling the real, they're buying the real estate. mortgaging the real estate with the church and the church funds. And then they're selling it and pocketing the money themselves. It's fucking insane. It's fucking insane. I mean, tax free. All right. Let's hear from Kenny Copeland about this. How do we get rid of this? How do we get rid of this debt that we've got?
That's the important part. That's what I wanted to really focus on because I know a lot of people out there are struggling with this, including us. So let's get wise. Let's talk to somebody who knows Kenny Copeland when we get back. Something Brian has never done. Be brief. Follow us on Instagram at The Commercial Break. Text or call us. 212-433-3TCB. That's 212-433-3822.
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It's a tough time to be an American living right now. The cost of goods is just through the freaking roof. Even the Halloween candy. God, I've got to buy that. Man. Yeah, I know. It's crazy. It's insane. We also were looking to go buy some Halloween candy. And we have these trunker treats that are going on. And one of them is, like, last year, the parents just went crazy. Like, mad.
buying a bunch of really expensive candy for the kids. And so we were talking to other parents about what they were getting. And again, they're getting really nice candy for the kids. And I thought to myself, geez, we're going to spend $100 on candy alone. Now, that's okay. It's my kids and it's okay. Like if it's once a year and we're, you know, whatever, we will figure it out.
But still, $100 on candy. Yeah, it's insane. All right, here's Kenny. You know, he's going to be spouting some biblical stuff. We'll walk through it together. Here we go. Oh, well, that didn't work, did it? Well, I tried. I tried. Well, I guess that's our sign that Kenny doesn't want us to do this. Yeah, we know how these happen. There we go. Okay, let's listen to what Kenny has to say here.
There he is. He's looking old. Yes, he's still looking sharp, though. Look at that nice tie suit. That's a $1,000 suit right there, I guarantee, or more. Oh, yeah, that's custom-made. Oh, yeah. We've got to be custom-made. He's got the Lord. Got to look good for the Lord. 18. He has a guy who just turns his pages for him? He does. He's up on a podium. His wife is there with him.
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Chapter 6: What is the significance of tithing according to the discussion?
Your organs are a great source of money. Oh, what a fucker. The blessing of Abraham. Yes. Go back to the book of Genesis. I wish Abraham would stop by my door. You know what I'm saying? And observe that power in the life of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Yes. Observe that power at work. Here is the mumbo-jumbo bullshit that he is taking the Bible and twisting it all up.
I had to read the Bible as a kid because I went to Catholic school all my life. I kind of vaguely remember the story of Abraham. I don't think it had anything to do with buying airplanes or Rolexes. I don't think there is a passage in there. No, there's not. And say, glory to God, that's in me. I have the power to get wealth. Glory to God, I got a holy fart full of money coming out of me.
I'm about to shit a 12-ounce gold brick. The Lord is on the inside of me. I release that power. Thank you, Jesus. In the name of Jesus, I believe I receive the blessing beyond measure. Yes, thank you, Jesus. Amen. Thank you, Jesus. Amen. Amen. Can I get an amen? I have that power. I have the power. It is resident in me now. There's financial great.
Like a little parasite, a little tapeworm full of money. You can't just pray your way to money. It's on the inside of me. Oh, thank you, Lord. I am an extremely wealthy person. Thank you, Jesus. Extremely wealthy. I dare you. When you say it, it's true. I dare you to just take your receipts and so forth and just figure out what you've sown over the last five years and multiply it times 100.
What? Here we go. Here we go. What? Take your receipts? Take your receipts that you've sown to the church. How much have you given to the church? And multiply it by 10. Because when you do that, you're going to realize you haven't given enough. That's why you're not rich. Hmm. That hundredfold belongs to you. You need to aggressively receive it. And it's on the inside of you.
It's not outside someplace. You're rich on the inside so you can be rich on the outs. Hallelujah. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you, Jesus. Thank you for making Kenny Copeland my secret man lover so I can fly on his plane also. Praise God. I want a suit as nice as Kenny's. That's enough shout about. Glory to God. Praise God. Go back.
Go back to the book of Genesis and find out what it says about your father Abraham and your faith. You have the faith of Abraham. I do. Amen. I do. Look at you. I do. I do. Hallelujah. Look at him pointing at people. You and you. And you didn't give enough. And you haven't given enough. Then go to Galatians chapter 3. I don't want to go all over the book.
Can you have like cliff notes or something? Can I ask Siri? Is there an audio version? Yeah. What about chat? You are blessed with Father Abraham. That's the reason I got so excited one time I did that. When we were living there in Tulsa, and my goodness, well, you know the story. You know the story. I only had one plane, and times were tough. I had to refuel, Chrissy. Refuel.
Refueling had to happen. And I said, Gloria, come here. Come here. I said, sit down here.
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Chapter 7: How do the hosts critique the practices of prosperity preachers?
We have the blessing of Abraham. You woman, sit. Listen to my shit. And I went back through those scriptures. I said, look at this. Look at this. We're rich now. This ain't nothing but a matter of time. That's right. That's right. That's right. And then I started the church. That's right. So I started the church and I started to take your money. Hallelujah. We're rich now. We're rich now.
We're rich now. You're in an atmosphere, listening to Brother Hagin, listening to Brother Roberts, and you were in the Word when you made that discovery. So it doesn't just come out of just a service once in a while. When he mentioned several series that are available, you find out how serious you are. Several series that are available for $49.99.
Coming out of debt by finding out what you put in to draw that blessing out. Right. Hoogly boogly. Right. It's talking in circles. Remember a couple days ago we were doing that video on Sally Jessie Raphael where we couldn't understand what anybody was talking about? This is ten times as confusing. You make the priorities. Well, do I put listening to this here? Well, let's see.
Well, you know, we have to watch the news. What? And we have to do this. No, you're not serious. No. No, you got to buy the book. You got to buy the series. You'll go on and on and on. You'll come to church and smile and shout and say, I'm rich now. And go on and keep doing the same old thing that's kept you broke all these years. Well, Brother Copeland, I'm not broke. Yeah, you are.
Yeah, you are. Yeah, you are. You have four planes? You poor bastard. You have four planes? Do you have a Rolex? One on each hand and one in your ass? I'm into some kinky shit. Let me ask you a question. Do you have enough money in the bank right now to last five years or something would happen? He can't even be bothered to hold his microphone. Yeah, I know.
He's got some woman holding it for him. Then you're broke. Do you have enough money in your bank to fund two absolutely terrible movies? I mean, five years? What? If something happened, do you have enough money for five years? No. No. I don't have enough money for five days. Yeah. Honestly. You got some income. Uh-oh. You got some income. Brother Copeland, I've got $50,000 in the bank.
Then you don't have any money. So what is he saying? So he's not, you're not broke, but you are broke. You're not broke, but you are broke. Yeah. Piss, piss on that. That's, that's what I, you don't have any money. You need to give it to the church and it'll come back to you tenfold. Yeah. That's not enough. Look at the, look at the other guy. He's like, uh-huh. Uh-huh. Uh-huh. Put it back. Yeah.
Yeah. You're thinking poor. Come on. Your soul is not prospering. Start thinking rich. Think and grow rich. Chrissy, I am going to give you a ride home today in my Phantom Rolls Royce. And then tomorrow we are going to buy Disney World so that we can do our next episode from Space Mountain. Glory to God. Glory to God. Yes, amen.
I'll tell you what, I don't have it now, but it's just a matter of time I'll have it. You wait and see, praise God. Well, what are you going to do about it? Set the goal. Don't set it at $100,000. Set it at a million. You set the goal. One of these days, I'm going to have a million dollars in my bank, and in the name of Jesus, I will be the biggest giver at EMIC. Glory to God.
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Chapter 8: What are the hosts' thoughts on organized religion and wealth?
That I am the Lord that healeth thee. I am the Lord that gives you the power to get wealth. Now receive that power. I blessed you with the blessing of Abraham. I blessed you with a future that's glorious and beyond compare. So rejoice, rejoice. I say again, rejoice because all is well in the household of faith. See, he just gets everybody worked up. Yeah, he gets everybody worked up. Amen.
I'm rich now. I'm leaving this place. I'm rich. It's happening. Praise God. Thank you, Jesus. By the way, you'll note that while they make it appear as if he's in some huge room, he's really not. That's a couple hundred people and seats are empty. The loaves and fishes just began. Turn it into wine, Kenny. I need to get drunk. It's brunch time. Yeah.
The moment, saith the Lord, that you reached out to me to be your debt freedom. I've always been your debt freedom. He does that awful smile. That smile is evil. It's evil. I never have been any other thing else. In the financial realm, I am, saith Jesus, your freedom from owing man anything but to love him. Praise God. Glory to God. That guy is such a dork up there. I know. What is he doing?
I don't know. He's a dick. I don't like that guy. I don't like either of them. He's holding his hands up. He's holding his hands up. He looks so small and puny. He's a dick. Don't look at your present income. Don't look at your present employer. Don't look and say, how can I get out beyond this? No, sir. No, sir. Give money to me. I will tenfold your investment. Jesus, you keep looking at me.
i'm your way out i'm your way up i'm your way through i am before you i am behind you i am all around you and if you will let me i'll lift you up out of that arena of debt so fast you'll wonder what happened to it all Well, it sounds like a plan. It sounds great. It sounds like a perfect plan. Just believe in Jesus. Easy step by step. Yes. You know. Step one. There's some clear steps here.
Step one. Well, if we just take it at face value, step one, give your money to Kenny. Step two, just keep on praising Jesus and eventually that debt will be left behind so fast you can't even see it. Don't go to a banker. Forget the bankers. They're not going to give you money in your best interest. They're going to give you money with interest. What we need to do is just keep giving it to Kenny.
So Kenny can, you know, he's done so much good, more good than his whole congregation could take advantage of, but they won't come with him up above the heavens. They just won't look down on earth with him. For these are the days of my freedom, saith the Lord. These are the days of the freedom of debt freedom. I know what I'm doing, saith the Lord Jesus. Saith.
Oh, I've got things you never heard of. Do you think that's in the Bible, I know what I'm doing? What's that? Do you think that's in the Bible, I know what I'm doing? I know what I'm doing, saith Jesus. Yeah. Hey, I know what I'm doing. I'm Jesus. What, you don't trust me? Come on. What's wrong? I thought we're friends. I can do things you've only dreamed of. If you will allow me.
Yeah, okay, cool. Do it. I got no problem with it. I'm open. Allowed. Whatever permission you're looking for, permission granted. Get me out of debt. I'll accept the cookies. Yeah, I got it. Yeah. Drop it right off of my front door. Allowed. You have permission to go into my bank account and put some zeros. Yeah. You probably should put one number there first and then put some zeros.
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