LEMON DROP | Kathy Griffin on Trump, the Media, & the 2028 Election
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How did Kathy Griffin and Don Lemon open the conversation and introduce the show?
We're live.
It's Kathy Griffin. Hey, I've been waiting for this day. John Lennon, ladies and gentlemen, your headliner.
I've been waiting for this moment. Waiting, waiting, waiting. How are you doing? You look fantastic.
Well, you know, I just did my YouTube show, which you can see for free, called Kathy Griffin Talk Your Head Off. Get it? Yeah. Talk Your Head Off. I got it when I saw it. All right. And then I love doing Substack. But here's what I don't get about you, Don. Don, how do you have a life when you're live all the time on all platforms? How do you do it?
Oh, my God. People say that all the time.
You are working your ass off.
I am. I'm working. I'm everywhere, every something, everywhere, all at once. But, I mean, honestly, I don't want to bring the room down, but I have not been engaged in Substack like I should because my sister died a few weeks ago.
Oh, yeah. Sorry about that.
And I don't know if you've ever gone through a loss. It's just like I just don't have the bandwidth.
The bandwidth.
So I've been pulling.
Yep.
I've been pulling back a little bit and just like sitting on the couch and watching old reruns of Nipta, which I have on right now.
Okay, that's my comfort show is reruns of, wait for it, Murder, She Wrote. I know that's so gay, but I just love it. And I want to live in Cabot Cove. And that's, by the way, brings me to my next topic. I just did a Substack Live and the question was, what country would you flee to if you had to because of Trump? And how would you actually facilitate it?
Okay.
What personal challenges and media burnout does Don Lemon describe early in the episode?
So not just, like, it's easy to say, I want to live in Spain. It's beautiful there. But, like, how would you, if you had to just up and go, how would you, where do you think you would go? Because don't act like you haven't thought about it. I'm sure you've thought about it.
I did. I did.
You hit both of us, Don.
I thought of Portugal for a little bit. But, look, if I have to pick anywhere, it would be on the water. And probably maybe Italy. Okay. Or... Should I go to South Africa?
I mean, it's what would you do with your like place that you live now? Would you how would you facilitate the other kind of logistics?
I would rent it. I would rent it. I would rent it. And oh, my gosh, people want us to do New Year's Eve together. We should do a special.
I would love to.
Should we do a Substack special or a YouTube special? Maybe a YouTube special.
I don't know. Well, let's let the people decide. I mean, here they're going to say Substack. But now, are you also running a camera on YouTube Live?
No, no, no. Let me tell you how you do this.
How do you do it?
I will give you some advice.
Okay.
So you do this and we have this great conversation here.
Okay.
And then you take the conversation from here and you repurpose it for your YouTube.
What?
Yeah.
That's like some Jetson spaceman stuff.
Yeah. You're going to get assets. They're going to, as soon as we're done. Uh, it's going to send you, it should send you in your email or whatever, in your notifications, it'll send you, it'll say, um, you know, clips from the thing that you did. It'll send you the full clip or it'll send you just, you know, a full show or whatever we do and some clips. And then you can post it however you want. You can put it on social, you can put it on YouTube and everybody does it.
I see your setup where you've got like one camera here, one here, uh,
Yes, I do that for YouTube. So the reason I do it at everything, look, on YouTube, you can simulcast everything if you want. You can do TikTok, you can do Facebook, you can do everything. But the reason I have two cameras is Is because the algorithm or the AI on TikTok is so sensitive.
Yeah.
So if you say, you know, sexual assault or you say kill or you say shoot, it like either limits you or it'll cut you off.
Yeah.
So, or if you use third party, whatever, like if I use certain clips from certain TV shows or newscasts, it'll say third party, you know, content and it'll cut it off.
Okay.
And so I don't, so I take the TikTok and I put it on a separate camera. All right.
I have a confession that I can only say to you.
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Chapters
4 chapters
1
How did Kathy Griffin and Don Lemon open the conversation and introduce the show?
0:00–1:27
2
What personal challenges and media burnout does Don Lemon describe early in the episode?
1:27–6:41
3
How do Kathy and Don discuss strategies for repurposing live shows across platforms?
6:41–46:04
4
What is Kathy Griffin’s perspective on media ownership and why reporters hesitate to challenge power?
46:04–50:43
Speakers
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