Lemon LIVE at 5 | MAGA & Trump vs. DEI - with Dr. Alaysia Black Hackett - February 12th, 2025
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Hello and welcome to Lemon Live at Five, the Don Lemon Show. Happy to be with you. Where are you streaming from? Hopefully you're having a great evening. If it's not five o'clock where you are, it's five o'clock somewhere. It is five o'clock here in New York City and we have the very latest news for you. Okay, so we're gonna begin this live stream today with some breaking news. And then we're gonna tell you, I have an exclusive for you, an expert on DEI who's going to school us, really school the MAGA folks, about what DEI actually is. I can't wait to introduce her, but I have to give you, pardon me, this breaking news first, okay? So we streamed to you live tonight. As we're streaming to you live, there's been yet another plane crash in Trump's America.
And we're going to break down the stats for you to see just who is safest and who actually had the best people in place, because that's what they keep saying. This afternoon, a fighter jet crashed into the San Diego Harbor. The two pilots on board ejected just before impact. Both pilots fortunately were rescued, and right now they are in stable condition. We are happy for them. Now, guess what? It is just the beginning of the year. It is February, right? We just left January. We're in the beginning of February. And this is now the sixth plane or jet crash In Trump's little more than three weeks in office, two of those crashes involved military aircraft. What's going on? What is going on? Does it have something to do with Donald Trump firing the heads of the TSA and the Coast Guard?
Does it have something to do with him gutting the FAA or freezing the hiring of air traffic controllers? Are they in a very bad way effing around and finding out that they need folks that they're trying to get rid of? Or as Trump would have you believe, this is all DEI. All of a sudden, it's DEI.
What breaking aviation safety story opens the show and why is it linked to Trump’s staffing changes?
And if it is, wasn't the sky falling? Why wasn't the sky falling? While Joe Biden was president, if it was all DEI and Joe Biden's administration was, if they were hiring unqualified people, because that's not actually what it means, but according to their definition, MAGA's definition, it's unqualified people using unqualified people of color or women who are getting jobs that white men should have. So then what's going on? Hmm, interesting. So to discuss all of this, and the broader attack on DEI. A very special guest, and as I say, an exclusive, Dr. Alacia Black Hackett, aka Dr. Lacey, is a CEO of ABH Solutions, and she was the Biden Labor Department's Chief Diversity and Equity Officer. I'm so glad to have you here to help us get through all of this.
Thank you, Dr. Lacey, for joining us. How are you?
I'm good, and thank you so much for having me. I'm waiting for this conversation. I can't wait to jump in.
Can we talk about the breaking news with the fire jet that crashed? Absolutely. So then what is going on? Because these crashes have been blamed on diversity, equity, and inclusion, and not in the way that really explains what diversity, equity, and inclusion is. So what is going on here? Explain, please.
Well, it's hard, Don, for me to explain that because I think it's a figment of a lot of people's imagination. So they are creating a narrative around it that is not true. I think that we have to ask them the hard questions and tell them to define how DEIA has anything to do with the crashes that are happening in the air. Furthermore, how do you fix it since DEIA is no longer an issue with this administration? So for me, I think that is a question for them to answer. and to seek out a resolution because obviously they don't know what's going on either.
Well, doctor, I mean, don't the numbers tell the story? I mean, if we can put up, you know, the the air accidents that have happened under the last three presidents. And if you look at what happened under Donald Trump, this is Donald Trump's. This is both administrations, the first and the second administration. But it is double. Even a member, Joe Biden, was one term. And under Trump, his second term just started in January, and it's already 208 to date.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:15–2:23
2
What breaking aviation safety story opens the show and why is it linked to Trump’s staffing changes?
2:23–13:20
3
How did Don Lemon introduce Dr. Alaysia Black Hackett and the show’s DEI focus?
13:20–19:24
4
What evidence and statistics are discussed comparing plane accidents under recent presidents?
19:24–40:33
5
How does Dr. Alaysia Black Hackett rebut claims that DEI lowers professional standards?
40:33–1:32:17