The Big Show With James Harrison of the Trust NZ Party

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Why did the hosts decide to break their no‑politics rule and invite a Trust NZ candidate?

Jase Hoyte 0:01
The Hauraki Big Show with Jase, Mike and Keezy. Tune in weekdays at four on Radio
Jason Hoyte 0:06
Hauraki. Now, one of the cardinal rules of the big shows, we don't do politics, do we, fellas? No. We steer well, well clear of it. But we've been intrigued with the elections coming up with a party that's sort of burst onto the scene, really, called Trust New Zealand. And we've got one of their candidates in here because we've been quite fascinated off-air by their policies, which... you could view as quite revolutionary. And we've got James Harrison from Trust New Zealand in with us. G'day, James. How are you
James Harrison 0:38
going? Well, I'm tickety-boo and Fanny McAdams. I'm fantastic, thank you.
Karl Urban 0:42
Great stuff. James, tell us a bit about your policies you've got here, mate, because we've seen a bit of them online, all that sort of carry on. And I think we can all agree that whatever's sort of happening at the moment, it's not really working. And
Unknown 0:57
I
Karl Urban 0:58
think a little bit of radical thinking is required, and it seems like you guys are sort of chasing that idea. Absolutely.
James Harrison 1:04
Radical thinking is sort of the cornerstone of any New Zealand, what do you say, innovation.
Karl Urban 1:09
And
James Harrison 1:09
I think that we are innovative, true fact.
Jason Hoyte 1:11
So
James Harrison 1:12
we do have two cornerstone policies. Me and my co-chair Harriet, we came up with them together one late night over a bit of soju. Yeah. Oh, the soju.
Jason Hoyte 1:22
Yeah,
James Harrison 1:22
nice. But we've got two main policies that we think will hit deep into the heart of New Zealand.
Karl Urban 1:28
Yeah.
James Harrison 1:28
These two policies are such as follows. Number one, anyone who is under 30, we deeply encourage you to not vote, to unenroll in fact. So if there's anyone out there listening today who's maybe a little bit too young, doesn't quite have a closed frenulum or whatever you call it, maybe just unenroll from voting.

What are the two cornerstone policies of Trust New Zealand and how were they created?

James Harrison 1:47
Yeah.
Karl Urban 1:47
So what is the story there? Because obviously that's going to rankle a few people. Young people have sort of an inclination to get offended easily, I think you would say. So what's the sort of the thinking behind that? You say don't vote if you're under 30. How do you come to
James Harrison 2:04
that? Well, I sort of, I read a statistic that in your lifetime, you've only got 20 opportunities to vote. That's a true fact. True fact. Only 20 opportunities to vote in your lifetime. Yes. And so many young people are on track just to not use any of those.
Karl Urban 2:17
And
James Harrison 2:18
I say, why stop there? Just continue not voting. And it's because you're not really, you don't get it, do you? I'm
Jason Hoyte 2:25
sure we were all young once. Well, that's right. I mean, I remember me in my 20s. It would have been a pointless vote from my point of view because
Karl Urban 2:34
I didn't know what
Jason Hoyte 2:34
the hell was going on.
Karl Urban 2:35
Well, that's often the thing, isn't it? And it's strange that, I mean, even Socrates said that democracy is a sort of a waste of pursuit because the uneducated get the same amount of votes as the educated or somebody who's spent their whole lives investigating something. they both get a vote and how can that be fair?
James Harrison 2:56
Completely what you just said. Yes. Absolutely. Yes. Socrates.
Jason Hoyte 3:00
One of the other things, policies I see there, and I think I'm right in saying this, James. Go on.

Why does Trust NZ encourage people under 30 to unenroll from voting?

Jason Hoyte 3:07
If you own two homes, you get two votes. Oh, that's our second cornerstone
James Harrison 3:11
policy. Yeah, that's great stuff. So it's just simple myth, really. If you get one house, you get one vote. If you have two houses, you get two votes.
Mike Minogue 3:19
Does that keep
James Harrison 3:19
going? Up to however many. We haven't really put a capstone on it yet. Right. How many houses have you got, James? I prefer not to talk about my personal life on
Mike Minogue 3:29
the radio. Let's keep it
James Harrison 3:31
professional, gentlemen.
Mike Minogue 3:33
60.
Karl Urban 3:37
So that being the case then, people will say, well, that's ridiculous. But what I like about that is a policy.
Unknown 3:44
It's
Karl Urban 3:44
unfair. It actually encourages people to work hard so that
Unknown 3:48
they can
Karl Urban 3:48
get a home so that then they've got the opportunity to vote. At the moment, there's no real motivation. There's nothing driving people to actually get out there, work hard, buy a house so that they can vote because you get that for
James Harrison 3:59
free. You feel like you might be a two ticks orange kind
Karl Urban 4:02
of guy. Well, I don't know, man. I mean, this is the thing, right? It does make sense when you look closely at it.

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