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What was the Springboks’ comeback story against the All Blacks in Baltimore?
So South Africa have taken up the four match series against the All Blacks. The Springboks have come from one nil down to win rugby's greatest rivalry after a forty three to twenty eight win at the Bolt On in Baltimore. Joining us now disgraced former Highlander Sky Sport commentator Joey Wheeler. Uh Joey, what did you make of that last game there for us?
Thanks for having me, fellas. Always good to chat. G Lane. Morning. Good to see you in the big seat, big fella. Uh Oh look. Yeah, I think there were a lot of positives than I that's sort of my high level thoughts, but obviously disappointing with the score line and how it blew out in the end because I don't think it was really a f fair reflection on on the game. But I I think f for some of the positives that that the All Blacks produced, I thought our set piece
How did Joey Wheeler assess the positives and negatives of the Springboks’ performance?
was far better. Um In in terms of the scrum and the and the line out, which was has obviously been our Achilles heel in the last Rekus leading into the Bolton. Um And Baltimore. But I'd imagine that Neil Barnes and Nutt Ryan, knowing those two well, they will have a couple of stones under their beach towels over the next couple of weeks before we go into uh the wallabies tests. Do you Yeah, man, like they were they were good, the South Africans, they were ruthless. Absolutely ruthless.
Joey Joey Wheeler, do you think that the all blacks potentially just need to hit the peptides harder and hit the gym?
Funny thing is my mum texts me that. She goes, How are these South Africans so big? But yet they're so you know, they they still can keep up with our all blacks and I
Are the All Blacks’ strength‑and‑conditioning programs the key to their recent struggles?
I I you know, I don't want to uh throw shade on anyone, but you know, there has been some questionable tactics in the past, haven't there? Yeah,
look, they've got a p pretty bad record when it comes to testing. But there was one individual, Cameron Honeycomb, as we called him, um, came on. He came on at the end, he scored the last try. He looked like he'd been made in a lab.
Hm, what's their strength and conditioning program over there? Yeah.
Yeah, look, it was I I think the thing about the sap is they've grown their game and I I think one man I know we all put a lot of focus on Russian and how crazy he is with his ideation and where he wants to take the game, but one guy that's been super influential is Tony Brown and I think You can just see his fingerprints written all over the bloody South African Boker side at the moment, like their skill set has improved. They've still got that physicality, but they're not that one dimensional just try and bash the living crap out of ya team that they once were. You know, they they are bringing a bit of skill set, they're using their high ball really smartly. They've also their forwards are using their skill set.
So I think he's gotta get a lot of um And credit for the growth in that game.
Which South African players are driving the new, skill‑focused style of rugby?
And thank the heavenly father that N Z R showed some foresight and contracted that bloke from twenty eight onwards and he'll be coming home because yeah, that IP will be invaluable when he gets back.
But they seem to have just designed their game plan around the players they have. They've got so many freakish players out there who are just excellent at one thing. Like their their prop Oxenchair might be about four foot eight. Yeah. Then Malcolm Marks about six foot eight and he's their hooker. Then they've got uh Ibn Etzabeth who's about six foot ten. Then their wingers are again three feet tall. It's just this weird and wonderful collection of players and then they orientate their team around it.
Yeah, you bang on. It is amazing to watch 'cause you're you're exactly right. Like and they do play to be strikes. I I've I w I've told this story to a few people about Malcolm Marks. Played 'em in Japan
What does Joey think about the future of the All Blacks and the upcoming World Cup?
I mean he was playing for Kubota. And I remember him coming down and he had two two little Japanese props uh w under each wing and you could hardly see them. It was like when we were scourging him, it was like Malcolm Marks was the Kubota front row and uh and then the rest behind him. Like he is that big, he is that wide.
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Chapters
7 chapters
1
What was the Springboks’ comeback story against the All Blacks in Baltimore?
0:00–0:50
2
How did Joey Wheeler assess the positives and negatives of the Springboks’ performance?
0:50–1:37
3
Are the All Blacks’ strength‑and‑conditioning programs the key to their recent struggles?
1:37–2:48
4
Which South African players are driving the new, skill‑focused style of rugby?
2:48–3:37
5
What does Joey think about the future of the All Blacks and the upcoming World Cup?
3:37–4:37
6
Should the trophy be handed to South Africa as a gesture of sportsmanship?
4:37–5:23
7
How does the episode wrap up and what are the final takeaways for listeners?
5:23–5:50