Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?
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Enjoy the show. Well, they is funny, though.
Yeah, they is funny. Because we're not going to properly attribute.
Of course not. It's they. Because one person is always they. Yeah, correct. And then it just travels. Even though I've seen people share a similar sentiment to it, but this person just worded it. What did he say? Something to the effect of it's. The Joe Budden podcast is the Wendy Williams for 40-year-old dudes. Yeah.
That ain't far off.
Joe Budden Podcast is the Wendy Williams of 40-year-old. I like to think that we do other things, too. But I think Wendy Williams is so dope to me, I don't take that as a dick. Yeah, word. Agreed. That's the thing with me, Joe. That's a legend. Wendy Williams is Wendy Williams. I think TV Wendy Williams, not radio. When they say that, are they trying to diss us? Yes. Oh, see? I'm slow.
Wendy Williams is an all-time great to me. I'd be like, nah, they hit that on the head. They feeling us. And he said of a 30-year-old, 30-plus, his tweet says, Joe Button Podcast is just Wendy Williams' show for 30-plus niggas.
I would say 40-plus, but you 30-plus niggas ain't slick.
Yo, oddly enough, you sleep on our 18 to 35 demo. Oddly enough, you do sleep on it. A lot of people, there's a lot of kids. Yeah, it is. College kids, younger kids, my girl kids, my kids. Same. My kids, friends. Like, don't sleep on the young heads that listen to us. But I do understand the point. I get it.
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Chapter 2: How does the conversation about Wendy Williams relate to the podcast's identity?
If you was trying to... Yo, I slapped the shit out of you, nigga. You came in here with all that energy, said we had a classic last episode, now you staring off into the fucking abyss. You came in here with all the energy, hyped me up, you put a battery in my back, you stepped the ish, you said we had a classic, and you staring off into the fucking abyss.
I was daydreaming me slapping him and him kicking me into the table. If I slapped a nigga, if I played slap him, would he have still kicked me? I was thinking, how far can I go in attempting to slap him? I daydream like, damn, when I fall in there, what I got to do? I swear. Glass is going to be in my ass pores. What up, nigga?
That was our HR fight we was having. Yes. Because the rule here is normally if you break the table, and audience, it's three topics. Yeah.
And one of them is very Wendy Williams. Right.
I don't know. The HR rule here, normally if you break the table, you're fired.
Yes.
Flip step to ish. and said, I'm gonna smack the shit out of you. And then Ish said, well, if you do, then you're gonna be on the floor and that table's gonna be broken. And you're gonna be fired. That's what Ish did say. I'm gonna get fired? I'm the only one? No, I said that too. I was like, why you don't think both of y'all get fired?
But then Ish explained it, and y'all know I ain't being on his side, but he was right. He was minding his business at work. Somebody came in his airspace and assaulted him. He does have the right to defend himself. And in that, if something breaks, then what I'm going to do? Yeah. But just buy another fucking table. And that's going to take eight months for them tables to come back.
Then I'm going to have to go in there. You don't want that table no way anyway. Then I'm going to have to go in there. Yo, can I buy the display? You got to have that bullshit talk about buying a display.
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Chapter 3: What insights do they share about the dynamics of friendships and relationships?
What'd you say, Flip?
I said that you were planning on changing the set. Is that plan still in effect?
Nah. Change your mind? I like the set. Okay. Trying to maximize the set. No, that's trying to be humble, nigga. Get the most I can get out of the set.
Nah. What do you think I'm doing? I'm just saying, like, nigga, don't save no money, nigga. Nigga, spend. Get a new set like you said. I couldn't wait to see. I couldn't wait to see all the tricks you had up your sleeve, bro. Because every time you up it, I know when you up it because something new come. When something happened, something new come, bro. So I can't wait to see what's new.
Can't wait to see what's new.
A new car, a new watch. At this point, it's not about earning more. It's about preserving. There's no new tricks. Sets are expensive. It's just saving. It's just saving and saving and saving. I'm still popping. I can't believe April is long. Yo, talk about a dude waiting to be replenished. Yo, I'm in my house sick. Like, yo, what if I just made this for the year? Nigga Friday, boy. Oh, thank you.
Yo, you hear this? I'm sitting here waiting. How do people do it? Friday around the corner. Oh, my God. I blew through a few mil in a blink of an eye. God damn, it's tough. I can't wait for the first.
I'm sorry. I can't wait for the first.
Sorry that happened to you. It's fucked up. You too, nigga. Mark, I will blast you off that chair today.
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Chapter 4: What are the implications of public relationships for celebrities?
That's why I don't want to jump on any... Yeah. They started showing clips. They showed a few clips where she was like drunk and she was being loud and she was being boisterous and he was just sitting there with the face like... Well. I'm not giving a reason why. I'm just saying to the people that are saying maybe she was too much for him.
He's not the only dude that gets a little annoyed when they're- That's what I'm saying.
They made a narrative out of it. A lot of times you see something that you want and when you finally get it, nigga, you don't want it no more in life. Yo, I wanted that, nigga. It's air in the beginning. It's fire. I don't- It ran its course, nigga. Sometimes that happens quickly.
And that's cool, but let's assume for just one second that she's telling the truth about what happened, right? Mm-hmm. then it's running his course is still different than cheating, right? It's not about the running his course and saying, I don't want to do this anymore. It's getting caught cheating.
But we're talking about what led him to cheat.
Nothing. Sometimes it don't have to be anything. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Sometimes people just want more different. Or he might not have wanted this. There's so much shit we don't know. This could be the fourth time she caught him. We don't know anything. This could be him- She ain't leaving him for cheating once.
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Chapter 5: How do personal experiences shape views on relationships?
That's what I'm saying. It's unlikely. It could really just be dude not even wanting to leave her. Right. I just had something over here that I did. I ain't want you to find out you found out and you're reacting this way. This is the part- We don't know shit. This is the part I don't like. We're now speculating from both sides. Why? Because she brought us into her relationship in a way that-
I don't think she would have done it if she'd had two days to think about it. Part of the reason why it's interesting to me is because my daughter was such a big Meg fan, right? And so girls her age look to girls like Meg as models and examples of how to do shit. So I don't- That's why it's really not a laughing matter for me.
And we are going to laugh, but why this is a microcosm of a more serious thing to me is because of what you're saying. Yeah. So many people look up to Meg, right? And what I've seen from Meg now is a pattern of not knowing how to read men, respond to men, communicate to men, or understand men. That's before Clay.
I'm going to bring this full circle for just one brief moment.
That's why the male best friend is not a threat or worry to me, because sometimes they can give some insight to your girl about how men think.
My girl's man that we were talking about since we back there is some NBA player nigga that I had on fantasy one time. And no, you can't keep talking to his best friend for. No, no, no. I'm not talking about the best friend. I'm talking about. No, I'm back now. I thought they talking about issues. Happy birthday, Craig.
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Chapter 6: What happened during the White House Correspondents' Dinner?
Nigga, fuck Craig. And the bulls.
No!
Craig Hilo? Craig Hodges! Craig Hodges! Craig Hodges! No, for real, so now here we are again. Men, men, in man world, Yeah, just mute up. I'm chilling, bro. You don't even have to tell me to mute up. In man world, I'm going to try my best. In man world, going public too soon, that's a, okay, we're checking that. You in bliss, you confetti, you partying, you, oh my God, I need the world to know.
But in the man, we're going to check that. Like Ish said, You're gonna meet my family. You don't have family. A lot of women, the dude's life now becomes their identity. A lot of women do that. So yes, when that happens, you're gonna meet some cousins. You're gonna meet my parents. If you can cook, you may even cook for them. They're gonna clear the plate.
It's gonna look like they enjoyed it again. In man world, that ain't saying nothing. To the woman, it's saying a whole lot. The whole, we're going to put our hands together and do a heart and I'm going to put your name on the boat. For me, I'm only speaking to me, Mark. That don't mean nothing. Would have said, I'm not serious about none of this that we doing.
The boat thing would have been the giveaway. Some dudes love bomb great. One, some dudes' situationship game is the meanest. Some dudes are gonna make you feel like the queen of the castle, but it's a short stay. And women think that all cheaters belong in the same box. I don't. I don't. So when she comes out public and says, He cheated. Women will interpret that a certain way.
I said, oh, that's a reasonable expectation. That's what I said. What's the reason for expectation? The cheating? That he would cheat or he would want more or he would desire more. His past says that. His track record. His track record says it. The girls before said it. He scored 60 in 11 dribbles, says it.
He scored 40 points in one quarter.
He has four championships. It says it. He's tall. He's half of a Splash brother. That says it. He plays. He also plays. We know you do. That's why I said men are talking now. As a man, I see it different because... Tell me why. This is the part I see. I think it's reasonable to expect him... There's nothing wrong with him saying, this ran its course. This was the best four months of my life.
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Chapter 7: What are the implications of asking for more money in the entertainment industry?
Just asking. To me. Kiss ass through work. Like...
Like doing a good job at working? No.
That's what I wanted to know. That's not what I mean. Like, it's going to sound crazy, but just being extra. You know what I mean? Work is work. Work is good. And you're supposed to want to work and do the best, put your best foot forward anywhere you go. But I feel like some people, and this is not to anybody up here. It's not to Mark.
Not to Mark. No, no, no, not to Mark.
It's not to Mark. Because I was one of the people that went above and beyond at one point. I feel like some people that go above and beyond... It could be looking like kissing ass. Did you do it for a reason?
What was the reason why you wouldn't above and beyond? Huh? What was the reason beyond you going above and beyond?
You don't think you go above and beyond still?
No. Not anymore. But when you were going above and beyond, what were you doing?
Well, I can see how you say it was kissing ass. I didn't say a thing. If somebody said you was kissing ass by trying to go above and beyond, and I can see somebody say, Flip, you was kissing ass.
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Chapter 8: How does Jim Jones handle the situation at Lowe's?
But some people just take pride in doing a good job. Yeah. And they see it as his own reward. I'm not even being funny. No, you're right.
No, you're right. No, you're 100% right. It's just for a topic and talking shit. Yeah, I know.
Come on, let's have our Vlad-Arie Spears fight. Y'all keep finding things to talk about to make me be on Vlad's side. Can somebody explain it to me? Because this one I didn't really get in the mix with like I did with the- Boosie asked Vlad for more money. They had their back and forth. I played it for y'all. That went out.
Boosie wanted to go from 20 to 25 or 25 to 35 or 40, whatever the numbers was. To 40, yeah. They had their back and forth, which is warranted because Boosie is a fucking megastar for Vlad and Vlad is the business owner. Typical conversation there. According to Vlad, Aerie Spears pops up a few days later saying, yo, big dog, in light of your Boosie conversation, I need more money.
Because if you willing to give Bootsy $25,000... Then I need more money. And you might have been giving me $6,000 and some Doritos. Now I need... So Vlad said initially he was on some... Harry Spears, get the fuck out of here with that. But he thought about it. He wanted to be professional. So he hit Harry Spears and he was like, yo...
I'll go look at your numbers, even though he knew it wasn't any Winnie Boosie's numbers. I'll go look at your numbers, see what's going on, and then later on, let's have a conversation about it. In Vlad's story, he hit him later, said, hey, I'm home, I reviewed everything, and I'm ready to talk about it. Do you have a minute?
And Aries Spears dubbed him and hit him back like, yeah, I'll talk about it whenever, at some point. So then Vlad was like, all right, fuck you, nigga. Not the nigga part, but you know what I'm saying. Yes, that's the end. That's it.
I don't see nothing wrong there on Vlad Park.
Me either. Harry Spears feels like, yo, I done some of your best interviews on your platform. Everybody left. Lord Jamal left. Bootsy left. Yayo left, is what he said. And he said, everybody left. I'm the last man standing. And I feel that you should give me more money because I'm just here riding with you.
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