Episode 1 - Bomani Jones
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All right. Welcome, everybody. This is the Matt Jones show. And, you know, when I did my first show, I guess, of the old Matt Jones podcast, which started many, many, many years ago, my first guest was Bomani Jones. And I thought, how fitting that we're starting it back and we bring him back. My longtime friend, Bo, from ESPN, HBO, now CNN. He was a writer. He did local radio. You've done everything, Bomani. Thank you very much.
me I appreciate you it dawned on me like we're not in the round number stage yet but we are almost at 20 years of uh knowing each other yeah so let's start with that you were tell everybody how we met you were a local a lot of people don't know you did local radio for a long time yeah but this was before I did local radio I was writing for page two and I wrote a story about um Carolina and Kentucky had played at the Dean Dome this was the last year of Tubby Smith And it looked like everybody had checked out on that.
2006.
So I wrote down my feeling that everybody had checked out. And I probably got a couple things wrong. And I know this because you reached out to me about it, which went okay. And you made also a very worthwhile point that I wasn't thinking about is that there's a racial dynamic in how Tubby is evaluated and how I, as a young black guy- my words could then be used on a topic that to be fair and i have a better appreciation for now than i did then only knew but so much about so i was like okay this is cool it was actually interesting because i can't remember the reason espn took it down like they felt like there was some detail that wasn't correct or whatever and they oh i didn't know they took it down yeah that was part of what that was part of what was famous about it was that they had taken the piece down after it went up for whatever the reason
But I do remember very clearly that after that, you're like, hey, you ought to come on our radio show. And I said, OK, fine. And I went on and I couldn't believe you guys were talking like this about things in sports. I was like, oh, y'all talk about Duke like this. This is crazy. I agree. But this is crazy.
Well, at the time, you had written something that was kind of like, maybe Kentucky needs to make a change. And I was a generally pretty positive tubby guy, and a lot of folks were using your words to go, see, we're not racist. We want tubby gone. Here's a young black guy that wants it, too. When you have opinions that are genuinely your opinions, but then people that might be bad actors in your mind take them for arguments you don't want, how does that work? I'm sure that's happened to you before.
Yeah, it just happened recently. We're talking about Shador Sanders and the draft. And so what has made it complicated is actually the presence of the internet. Or maybe the internet has made it a little bit more simple in that the internet has made everyone more tribal. And I think a thing the internet has done that we don't talk enough about is it has minimized intra-group disagreement. Right.
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