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Mark Halperin on Biden Cover-Up, Link Lauren on Mulvaney and Melania, Maureen Callahan on Harry and Meghan: MK Media Highlights

Sat, 17 May 2025

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Megyn Kelly introduces some highlights from the week of MK Media, featuring Mark Halperin on the truth about the Biden cover-up and the media, Link Lauren on Dylan Mulvaney and Melania Trump's fashion, and Maureen Callahan on Harry and Meghan (and Taylor and Blake).Subscribe to Next Up with Mark Halperin: https://nextuphalperin.com/Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/next-up-with-mark-halperin/id1810218232Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2f0n8G4xqUo8aGxbbbtRjHSubscribe to Spot On with Link Lauren: https://spotonwithlink.com/Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/spot-on-with-link-lauren/id1812663737Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2RPHR4jKTJqkruxJjn6kznSubscribe to The Nerve with Maureen Callahan: https://thenerveshow.com/Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-nerve-with-maureen-callahan/id1808684702Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4kR07GQGQAJaMNtLc9Cg2o Riverbend Ranch: Visit https://riverbendranch.com/ | Use promo code MEGYN for $20 off your first order.SimpliSafe: Visit https://simplisafe.com/MEGYN to claim 50% off & your first month free!Birch Gold: Text MK to 989898 and get your free info kit on gold

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Chapter 1: What are the highlights from MK Media this week?

0.829 - 30.142 Megyn Kelly

Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show, live on Sirius XM Channel 111 every weekday at noon east. Hey everyone, I'm Megyn Kelly. Welcome to The Megyn Kelly Show and today's MK Media bonus episode. We have three shows now launched as part of our MK Media network all within the past four weeks. And thank you for making them all a huge success. I know that's our audience.

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30.443 - 46.551 Megyn Kelly

And I am grateful to you because I know you love these guys and you're giving them a chance. And I think that's awesome. Today, we are bringing you some highlights from MK Media this week. First up is Next Up with Mark Halperin. Mark, as you know, is a very fair, objective reporter in a sea of liars.

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And this week, he proved it again, going in-depth on his knowledge of Joe Biden's cognitive decline going back to 2017 in the wake of the new book from Jake Tapper and Alex Thompson. Launching this week was our latest offering that's spot on with Link Lauren. It's crushing it on the Apple charts. And Link launched his show with a hilarious deep dive dissection of Dylan Mulvaney like only he can.

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70.387 - 93.667 Megyn Kelly

And then there's The Nerve with Maureen Callahan, which is on fire. Already over 100,000 subscribers on YouTube. That's amazing. And this week she took on Harry and Meghan. We love Maureen on Harry and Meghan, not to mention Taylor Swift and Blake Lively as only Maureen can. This has been my new greatest guilty pleasure. I just love listening to Maureen rip on these people. I think you can relate.

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Chapter 2: What did Mark Halperin say about Joe Biden's cognitive decline?

170.834 - 192.407 Megyn Kelly

And next up for us is my hope that my people in my profession in the media can do a better job. The credibility of the media is vital to our country. And today we're going to look at a case study, an example of an area that's, I think, indicative of where we are. It's a new book, Original Sin, and it's a book by two journalists.

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192.627 - 215.599 Megyn Kelly

One is a guy named Alex Thompson, who was one of the most energetic and aggressive reporters in covering Joe Biden's mental decline. And the other author is a guy named Jake Capper, who's an anchor at CNN. And what I want to do today is to explain to you why this book represents a crisis and maybe, maybe an opportunity for the American media to regain credibility with the public.

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215.959 - 237.654 Megyn Kelly

This goes back to the question of Joe Biden's mental decline. And I continue to laugh when I hear people say we didn't know and it was we only had a hint of it or we saw it in the debate, but not before. That's something reporters sometimes say. And a lot of Democratic officials say it's a it's a farce. So I've covered Joe Biden and know Joe Biden for pretty much my whole career.

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And in 2017, just after he left the White House, he had a book out and he was on a book tour. And I saw him do a book event, very friendly interviewer, big crowd. And he was a train wreck. He was glassy-eyed. He had trouble following the conversation. He talked hauntingly. Again, this is 2017. long before he ran for president in 2020.

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276.688 - 276.088 Link Lauren

2017.

277.028 - 298.117 Megyn Kelly

Now, I'm not a doctor. I know Joe Biden decently well, but there are plenty of people who know him better. I couldn't believe he ran for president in 2020. And so to me, his mental decline was apparent in 2017. And now what you have is a bunch of people who say it was only apparent to them on the day of the debate in the 2024 campaign.

298.957 - 316.264 Megyn Kelly

The reason this new book is causing such an uproar, even though it's not out until next week, is because the book purports to explain the cover-up inside the White House, the cover-up inside the White House of Joe Biden's mental decline. I don't understand how there could be a cover-up of something that was on television on a nearly nightly basis.

316.945 - 333.502 Megyn Kelly

In either Joe Biden's performance, which was uneven, there were times when he was fine. We've all seen people with mental decline. We know that sometimes things are better than others. But it was on TV every night. And in 2020 and 2024, it was also on TV when Joe Biden wasn't there. He was not visible.

Chapter 3: How is Dylan Mulvaney involved with Melania Trump's fashion?

334.342 - 356.916 Megyn Kelly

And the ability to have credibility to cover presidents was undermined significantly from 2024 back to 2019, at least. Today, Donald Trump, there's so many things that need scrutiny. His acceptance of this airplane, his family's business dealings in the Middle East with the very monarchies that he's meeting with on this trip. I could go on.

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For those in this country who say the press is not doing a tough enough job scrutinizing Donald Trump, I agree. The press should always be super tough. But what's happened is because of the way they covered Joe Biden, the press has lost credibility with the public. So why is this significant? Today, news of this new book has come leaking out to news organizations reporting on it.

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380.361 - 390.992 Megyn Kelly

One is The Guardian, which got a copy of the book, and they report that a lot of Democrats are very unhappy that Joe Biden kept running. And he should have gotten out of the race and that and that there was efforts to cover up for him.

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391.552 - 410.076 Megyn Kelly

Another report from Alex Thompson, who now writes for Axios, he wrote for Politico previously, says that there was discussion within the Biden camp of perhaps Biden needing a wheelchair. But he couldn't use a wheelchair during the campaign and that if he won reelection, there was talk he would use it then. That's interesting. Those are interesting things.

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410.156 - 432.651 Megyn Kelly

I don't doubt I don't doubt either of those things are true. But it's this question of accountability, this question of did reporters do everything they could to hold Joe Biden and his team accountable for his obvious decline? Few interviews, few press conferences, few public appearances. doing things in public, not every day, but often, that showed obvious mental decline.

432.912 - 445.062 Megyn Kelly

This wasn't something for insiders to know or whisper about, the terms of the cover-up were, but the fact of Biden's decline was not a secret. And the public saw it. So these two guys have now written this book, okay?

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And their publisher, aware of the criticism that's already come their way, saying, how can you write a book after the election about a cover-up that we all saw with our own eyes during the campaign? made a video, a publisher making a video, not that common.

459.324 - 467.549 Megyn Kelly

Here's a bit of the video they made trying to establish the bona fides of the two authors, Mr. Thompson and Mr. Tapper, that they were on this from the beginning.

Chapter 4: What insights did Maureen Callahan provide on Harry and Meghan?

467.969 - 487.941 Alex Thompson

Will you pledge that if you're elected, you will be transparent about your health, all facets of your health, with urgency so that we know? Yes. One poll shows that almost two-thirds of Democratic voters want a new nominee in 2024. and the top reason they gave was your age. You know, that's not a good number for President Biden.

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488.201 - 502.228 Alex Thompson

Two-thirds of the American people say he's not sharp enough to be president. Yeah, I mean, how can you use the bully pulpit when you don't have a bully you can put in the pulpit? Okay, so you're part of the 23% of adults who are not concerned about the president's ability to be president because of his age and stamina.

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502.388 - 513.326 Alex Thompson

I mean, I know incumbents in general are not popular right now, but do you ever think, maybe we should have a new candidate? There's a little bit of denialism with the president.

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513.486 - 533.283 Alex Thompson

This is a particularly bad week for this report and its comments about President Biden's faculties and his memory to come out because twice this week, he has acted as if he in 2021 spoke to European leaders who have been dead for years. Part of the job of president is having the confidence of the American people in your faculties.

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533.743 - 545.633 Alex Thompson

The White House's response every single time it has come up for three and a half years has been to deflect, to gaslight, to not tell the truth, not just to reporters, not just to other Democrats, but even at times to themselves.

546.153 - 560.853 Megyn Kelly

So you saw and if you're listening on the podcast, you heard there are two voices. One is is Alex Thompson, who was an aggressive reporter, as aggressive as almost any reporter. in trying to figure out what was going on with Joe Biden's mental acuity and how his team was handling it. And then you heard the voice of Jake Tapper.

561.234 - 582.289 Megyn Kelly

And the publisher did as good a job as it could to find clips of Jake Tapper seeming to be at least interested in the topic of Joe Biden's mental decline. So we thought, well, what are the counters to that? Because I know that no one at CNN was particularly aggressive about this, and I had no indication from my memory that Jake Tapper was aggressive.

582.51 - 606.077 Megyn Kelly

So we went and looked at the full appearances, the full segments, in which Jake Tapper was, in which the clips were pulled for that publisher video, to ask ourselves, did the full clips demonstrate that Jake Tapper in attitude and determination and focus was in real time during the campaign, during Biden's presidency, interested in getting to the bottom of this?

606.377 - 620.0 Megyn Kelly

So let's look at some of the clips from the publisher video, but beyond what they chose to include. Here is Joe Biden's interview with Jay Tapper in 2022. You're about to turn 80 next month.

Chapter 5: What are the key controversies surrounding Joe Biden's mental health?

697.697 - 704.624 Megyn Kelly

Again, this is from the same segment that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was serious about getting to the bottom of this cover up.

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705.024 - 707.607 Alex Thompson

That's what I'm saying. That's 77 percent who are concerned.

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708.686 - 728.577 Jake Tapper

I've had conversations with some of your colleagues in the White House press corps when we travel abroad how it is hard for us to keep up with this president who is constantly, constantly working every day to get things done and making sure that we are delivering for the American people. And that's what, and I think that's what matters. I get it. I get what you're asking me.

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728.837 - 734.94 Jake Tapper

But the record matters too, Jake. What he's been able to do, no other president has been able to do if you look at his legislative record.

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735.0 - 753.406 Megyn Kelly

And that matters. What did the White House do to try to control the press, to keep them from asking? A compliant and pliant press. One is they privately called them and browbeat them and said, do not cover this. If you cover this, you'll be cut off. I don't know if they did that to Jay Cap or not, but they also did what she did there in public. They said things that were ridiculous.

753.626 - 773.114 Megyn Kelly

Oh, he runs circles around us. He's tireless. I mean, look at his schedule. By the time that interview had occurred, there were many instances of the president having a very light schedule on overseas trips, canceling events with foreign leaders. They say, well, he always did his job, and he did his job great. No, he canceled events, and he had a very light schedule.

773.534 - 793.185 Megyn Kelly

So here again, he asked the pro forma question. She bats it away with one of their usual lines of spin. Oh, he's so energetic. He runs circles around the younger staff. There's no evidence of it. It's a made-up piece of spin, and he seemed to accept it there. Here's another example, again, drawn from the same appearance that the publisher used to prove that Jake Tapper was tough.

793.225 - 810.149 Megyn Kelly

And this is with another Biden spokesperson, Kate Bedingfield, who, by the way, was a CNN consultant. So she's being paid by CNN to spin for Joe Biden with her colleagues with whom she shares a green room and everything else. This is from February of 2024, shortly before everything went south for Joe Biden.

810.689 - 814.43 Alex Thompson

So this memory issue is already out there.

Chapter 6: How did Jake Tapper approach the topic of Biden's cognitive abilities?

957.765 - 964.27 Mark Halperin

Every time he comes on stage or they turn to him, I'm like, Joe, can you get it out? Let's get the words out, Joe. You kind of feel bad for him.

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965.371 - 969.834 Alex Thompson

How do you think it makes little kids with stutters feel when they see you make a comment like that?

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972.036 - 987.608 Donald Trump

First and foremost, I had no idea that Joe Biden ever suffered from a stutter. I think what we see on stage with Joe Biden, Jake, is very clearly a cognitive decline. That's what I'm referring to. It makes me uncomfortable to watch somebody on stage stutter.

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987.908 - 989.069 Alex Thompson

This is so amazing.

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989.169 - 997.793 Donald Trump

It's so amazing to me that... And try and figure out an answer. A cognitive decline. Well, when you're trying to tell me that what I was suggesting was a stuttering... I think that you were mocking his stutter.

998.074 - 1020.707 Alex Thompson

Yeah, I think you were mocking his stutter. And I think you have absolutely no standing to diagnose somebody's cognitive decline. I would think that somebody in the Trump family would be more sensitive to people who do not have medical licenses. diagnosing politicians from afar. Plenty of people have diagnosed your father from afar, and I'm sure it offends you, your father-in-law from afar.

1020.727 - 1024.01 Alex Thompson

I'm sure it offends you. You don't have any standing to say... I'm not diagnosing him.

1024.05 - 1039.343 Donald Trump

What I'm saying, Jake, is that we can clearly see... You just talked about a cognitive decline. I have one last question for you, Laura. And it's very concerning to a lot of people that this could be the leader of the free world. That is all I'm saying. I genuinely feel sorry for Joe.

1039.844 - 1062.265 Megyn Kelly

I appreciate it. I'm sure. Yeah. So indignantly cuts off the interview. She's not a doctor. Jake's not a doctor. I'm not a doctor. But I talked to a lot of doctors in 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022, 2023, 2024. And many of them said, look, I don't usually diagnose people from afar, but obviously there's mental and cognitive decline.

Chapter 7: What criticism did Alex Thompson receive regarding media coverage?

1718.183 - 1739.157 Maureen Callahan

I don't think Donatella is going to be sending me clothes after this episode, but nonetheless, who cares? I'll also say this. Dylan Mulvaney is not good for any brand. The fastest way to tank your brand is to have Dylan Mulvaney endorse it. We saw that with Bud Light, right? They sent Dylan Mulvaney all of these cans with his face on it, and immediately the stock started to plummet.

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1739.397 - 1758.367 Maureen Callahan

But I'm the type of person, because I call it like I see it, because I'm fair, I actually somewhat defended Dylan Mulvaney and the Bud Light scandal, and let me tell you why. This is one of my first big viral videos. Some of you who've been with me for years, you might remember this. So Dylan Mulvaney was getting lambasted, raked over the coals for this Bud Light scandal.

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1758.387 - 1777.955 Maureen Callahan

And I said, you know what? Bud Light, they're the ones who strayed from their core competencies. Bud Light, they're the ones who decided to send all these cans to a man in a dress who mocks women for a living because that's what Dylan Mulvaney does. That's how Dylan Mulvaney became famous. He was posting these videos saying, I chipped a nail. I'm having a bad day. I must be a girl.

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1777.995 - 1798.962 Maureen Callahan

This is what womanhood is like. My life has been so enriched by the strong women within it. There are strong, incredible women producing the show right now behind the camera. I can tell you, Dylan Mulvaney knows absolutely nothing about womanhood if he thinks it's makeup, lipstick, hair extensions, and dresses. That has nothing to do with real womanhood. I was raised by a strong, independent woman.

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1799.222 - 1816.951 Maureen Callahan

I can tell you that right now. Dylan Mulvaney is a joke. But Bud Light, they sent Dylan the cans. All Dylan was doing was collecting a check, doing a brand deal like every other influencer. Now, Bud Light, most of the people who drink Bud Light, they are not transgender. They are not men in dresses. They are not cringe-worthy influencers.

1817.151 - 1838.505 Maureen Callahan

But some dumbass at Bud Light thought it would be a good idea to send Dylan Mulvaney those cans. I actually think Versace, this liberal, elite, high-fashion institution, sending dresses to Dylan Mulvaney makes a little bit more sense. But what I don't understand is this. Donatella Versace, she could send clothes to angel moms, warrior moms, school teachers.

1838.585 - 1858.861 Maureen Callahan

Some of you out there would love to have a hair and makeup session, have someone come and bring you a fancy thousand dollar dress to put on for the day and go to a fabulous event. But Donatella Versace, she is telling you where her priorities lie, right? She doesn't care about the forgotten men and women of this country. She cares about this transgender influencer who makes a mockery of women

1859.321 - 1876.985 Maureen Callahan

every single day and then wants to cry and play the victim. That's what Dylan Mulvaney does, right? Dylan Mulvaney tries to say, oh my God, everyone's so mean to me. Everyone's so harsh on me. Dylan, you have become rich and famous because you put a dress on. All right. People would love to do that. I wish I didn't have to work that hard.

1877.466 - 1889.146 Maureen Callahan

In my next life, we can all come back as Dylan Mulvaney and become rich and famous for doing absolutely nothing. Now, Dylan Mulvaney, he was praised by his fashion. He had think pieces written on him in Vogue.

Chapter 8: How does the press handle accountability in politics?

2106.564 - 2127.354 Maureen Callahan

That's about half the country. Kamala Harris, she got her ass handed to her. She lost every single swing state. President Trump won the House the Senate, the Electoral College. So all of these folks, they can turn their backs on half the country. They can denigrate half the women in this country. But even from a capitalistic standpoint, I don't understand what Vogue is doing.

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2127.634 - 2148.225 Maureen Callahan

Why are you tearing down conservative women when you could be giving them a shot? Usha Vance, she's an Indian American. She's the first Hindu second lady. If she had a D next to her name, if Usha Vance were a Democrat, they would have loved her, but that's why people aren't buying Vogue. That's why these magazines are going out of fashion, going out of style and shutting down.

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2148.305 - 2168.323 Maureen Callahan

So to conclude and bring it all home, Melania Trump, she wears a dress on New Year's Eve. She is attacked. She's raked over the coals. They say her outfit is too scandalous. Why is she wearing that as first lady? Vogue drags her. They say she's a freelance magician. They say she's boardroom pastiche. Okay, that's what they say about Melania Trump.

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2168.823 - 2193.325 Maureen Callahan

Dylan Mulvaney, a man, puts on the same dress and is praised by the fashion literati. Dylan Mulvaney puts on the exact same dress like when you order it online versus when it arrives in the mail. Dylan Mulvaney looks like the Alibaba, Timu, Wish version of Melania Trump. Dylan, you wish. You wish you had the fashion wherewithal of Melania Trump. You don't. You tried. Better luck next time.

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2193.585 - 2212.699 Maureen Callahan

But Dylan Mulvaney puts on the exact same dress and is praised. Vogue is saying Dylan looks incredible. They say Dylan Mulvaney is opening doors for women. That's how far the feminist movement has come on the left. A man in a dress with balls. I don't know. Maybe he doesn't have balls anymore. We'll have to check in and get back to you on that one. But Dylan Mulvaney, a man...

2213.519 - 2228.906 Maureen Callahan

is opening doors for women and breaking down barriers for women for putting on a $1,000 dress and going out to a fancy highfalutin event. All of you liberals are out of touch. You're cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Like I said in the intro, I wish you well.

2229.026 - 2250.693 Megyn Kelly

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