Ep. 28: How to Make Your Evaluations More Neurodiversity Affirming
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What is the purpose of this episode and who are the hosts?
What's up everyone and welcome to Making the Shift.
We're an SLP couple from California with three boys and a passion for finding better ways to support autistic kids.
I'm Chris. You might know me as speech dude. I'm a Neurodivergent High School SLP and the creator of the Dynamic Assessment of Social Emotional Learning, and I specialize in crafting neurodiversity affirming IEPs through my online course.
And I'm Jesse, a sensory integration trained SLP, owner of a top-rated clinic in Los Angeles, and the creator of the Inside Out Sensory Communication Programs for Parents and Therapists. Join us weekly to learn neurodiversity affirming ways to support social, emotional development, and regulation in autistic kids.
Are you ready to make the shift?
Let's do it. Hello everyone. Welcome to Making the Shift. I was just commenting on how dark it is because of the time change.
Yeah, and we have a bunch of clouds out today, which doesn't happen all too often, but we've had Some flash floods and that's a rare thing.
I know I got the nice alert on my phone today. I was like, what is this? That's so unusual. But the daylight savings is killing me. I think normally it affects the kids. This time it's me. I don't know what it is. Um, but if you're like my dad. You don't follow the daylight savings.
That's right.
Remember my dad, he calls his property Gary Land and Gary Land does not follow Daylight Saving. So I feel like he's made a really good move there.
Yeah, I think so too.
So November getting excited for Thanksgiving, although we have zero Plans. So we have to figure out whose party we're gonna crush.
That's right. We gotta get this thing dialed in soon.
Yeah. But we're really excited. Today's topic came from a question that we get all the time. So we speak a lot to different organizations, schools, and whatnot about implementing neurodiversity affirming practices and I feel like it really is just kind of like inevitable that there's always someone who raises their hand. And ask this question, which in our last um seminar. Someone did. And I could just tell that it was I feel like maybe she was like biting her tongue for the first 20 minutes because she was like dying to ask this question. And then finally she did. Which was some version of this we hear a lot, which is this all sounds great. I'm all on board. I want to be a neurodiversity affirming, but how I can't I won't be able to because my school or how the system is set up and my work setting, it just doesn't allow me to do that.
Like what am I supposed to do? We've got standardized assess assessments we need to do for our kids. So how can we possibly use those standardized assessments, but then still do neurodiversity affirming assessments? So I think we get some version of that question a lot.
Yeah, absolutely. I think that was the thing too, is the driving force of the question of how if how do we Qualify students and how do we drive goals if we don't focus on deficits? And that pops up quite often, as Jesse said. So we'll kind of uh go through some of the ideas and concepts and ways to help frame it so we can help out as best possible in evaluations.
Yeah. And I think those are almost like two different things. Like Assessing our kids for funding reasons versus assessing our kids to develop goals. Right. And we know that standardized assessments often don't truly reflect a child's true abilities. So let's start off. And if you guys are here live, put in the chat what your work setting is so that we know we know that affects your funding sources as well. But why don't we start off with kind of like What is the big problem with giving autistic kids these standardized assessments or You could say what are things that you should be taking into consideration at least when you are using them or when you have to use them.
Yeah, absolutely. So what um Jesse and I decided to do was go through just some of the things, especially on my end. I work in the schools. So um schools and private practice and hospital settings are are separate entities. And so um there's just different approaches.
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