Ep. 4: The Best Way to Get Teams on Board with a Neurodiversity Affirming Approach
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What is the purpose of the Making the Shift podcast and today's focus on neurodiversity?
What's up everyone? Welcome to Making the Shift.
Where we listen to autistic voices,
explore new therapy ideas,
and share neurodiversity affirming methods and strengths-based approaches to support autistic kids.
Because we're not here to try and quote fix kids.
We are here to love them, embrace them, and celebrate them for who they are. I'm Jesse Ginsburg, sensory integration trained SLP, founder of a top-rated speech therapy clinic in Los Angeles, and creator of the Inside Out Sensory Certificate for SLPs.
And I'm Chris Winger, also known as Speech Dude, high school SLP and creator of the Dynamic Assessment for Social Emotional Learning. Are you ready to make the shift?
Let's do it.
Hello everyone! Welcome to episode four of Making the Shift.
Guess what day it is? It's someone's birthday. And we got a pinata to celebrate.
Nothing like planning your own birthday party.
Who's
is your is my party hat on backwards?
I think yours is on right. Mine's on backward. Oh my gosh. This is the way to start it off. We're gonna have a fun night. It's Tuesday. It's going to be a opportunity to grow and learn. We're going to give you some uh new tidbits out there for growth. I think you're really going to like it. But before we do that, we had an idea to kick this night off with. Some trivia.
And this is actually gonna be really interesting. Okay, so it is my birthday. We are gonna do some trivia to see how well Chris knows me. And the funny thing is that I feel like our relationship is different than a lot of people, right? Because a lot of people like date for many years, start a family, know everything there is. Whereas we like dated for several months, had a baby, then moved in, then it was like Like I feel like we're still getting to know each other, don't we?
We are definitely. Every day. Literally, I'm like, Oh, I didn't know that about you.
Hey, what's your middle name again? Oh, an
Asian birthday.
Basically. So this is actually really interesting because I really don't know if you're gonna know all these. Okay, so we've I got ten questions. So the first five are like questions you might have to think a little. And then the next five are like rapid fire.
Okay. Works for me.
Okay, are you ready?
Let's see what let's test my knowledge.
How do Jesse and Chris use personal stories to introduce neurodiversity education?
Let's test my ability to infer or make uh guesses based on this the being with her. Let's see what we got.
Okay. So this one you should know. Okay, ready? First one. And if you are live and you could play in the chat, we would love for you to play. Okay. First one, you should know this.
Okay.
What instrument did I play growing up?
Ooh, I should know this. Let's see if you guys can take a guest in the chat. Um growing up I know that you play guitar with me from time to time. So I'm gonna go with guitar.
Wrong? What else can I play?
Oh, you could play guitar. I thought okay, so your first instrument. Um
Like what is the only instrument you've ever seen me play other than the guitar?
Other than the guitar? Um That I've seen you play.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh. The not the ukulele piano. Keyboard.
Oh good lord. Yes. Yes, yeah,
yeah. The the like the piano keyboard. Okay. I never got past for
Elise, but I did play for a long time.
I do remember this.
Okay. If you didn't get that one, it question makes me wonder if you're gonna get the rest. Okay. Um This one you may not know. So let's see.
Okay.
Okay, what? Oh spore slash activity. Диа компет і. When I was young, like elementary school.
Cheerleading.
No, that I did.
What are the main barriers teams face when adopting a neurodiversity‑affirming approach?
That wasn't till middle school.
Oh, I'm not very good at this game. Okay.
You may Okay, so not
cheerleading, but it's this is
I
because cheerleading's a sport. It's like a you know, they go at the collegiate level and they compete and they had, you know, cheer on Netflix. So it's not that okay, so elementary or
or I'm just saying you may not like this may not come to your head when you hear the word sport. Yeah, that's why I say activity. Do you want me to give you a hint? Uh huh. There is an animal involved.
Oh, horseback riding. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Bingo. Got that. Side note, she has a
Mini
horse. Mini horse. Mini horse.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What is the purpose of the Making the Shift podcast and today's focus on neurodiversity?
0:08–2:51
2
How do Jesse and Chris use personal stories to introduce neurodiversity education?
2:51–4:31
3
What are the main barriers teams face when adopting a neurodiversity‑affirming approach?
4:31–6:11
4
How does the “planting the seed” method help educate teams about neurodiversity?
6:11–7:57
5
Why focus on small incremental changes rather than big overhauls?
7:57–10:52
6
What resources can clinicians use to share neurodiversity information efficiently?
10:52–14:41
7
How can listeners win free coaching sessions and what’s included?
14:41–17:55
8
What actionable steps should listeners take to start neurodiversity advocacy today?
17:55–21:16
Speakers
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