Ep. 49: Four Ways to Spot Dysregulation in a Gestalt Language Processor Ft. SLP Melanie Weber

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What is Gestalt Language Processing and why does regulation matter?

Chris Winger 0:08
What's up everyone and welcome to Making the Shift.
Jesse 0:12
We're an SLP couple from California with three boys and a passion for finding better ways to support autistic kids.
Chris Winger 0:20
I'm Chris. You might know me as speech dude. I'm a Neurodivergent High School SLP and the creator of the Dynamic Assessment of Social Emotional Learning, and I specialize in crafting neurodiversity affirming IEPs through my online course.
Jesse 0:36
And I'm Jesse, a sensory integration trained SLP, owner of a top-rated clinic in Los Angeles, and the creator of the Inside Out Sensory Communication Programs for Parents and Therapists. Join us weekly to learn neurodiversity affirming ways to support social, emotional development and regulation in autistic kids.
Chris Winger 0:56
Are you ready to make the shift?
Jesse 1:00
Hello and welcome to Making the Shift. Today we are here with the one and only Melanie Weber. And Melanie is an SLP. She is on my team. She's a program advisor for our century program. And it's been awesome getting to work with her. And even more awesome because she has these very unique specialty areas that have been super helpful for the parents and therapists in our programs that I wanted her to share with you guys. And where she really shines is in Gestalt Language Processing. So we have had so many great conversations about how. to know if a gestalt language processor is dysregulated, what are those signs? And that's what we're gonna give you today. We are going to give you four signs that a gestalt language processor is dysregulated.
Melanie Weber 1:55
So excited when I realized the connection between Gestalt and Sensory. It literally just opened this whole new door. So I'm so excited to get to tell people about it because I think it's so important.
Jesse 2:05
Yes, and I think that's a question we get a lot. From people, we might we get a lot of people who are trained in GLP, guest dot language processing. In my head, I'm putting it in parentheses. The we're doing lot of dictation these days. And they say like, okay, I'm using this language approach. When am I going to see progress? And it doesn't really matter the language approach you're using if a child isn't regulated, right? Like, well, obviously we want to use the language approach that fits them, but our number one goal really is to get a child regulated because that's when we're going to see their language really grow. And develop, but Today we are going to talk specifically about GLPs being dysregulated.
Jesse 2:50
So Melanie, hit us with the number one sign that a GLP is dysregulated.
Melanie Weber 2:58
I really think and people are gonna be like, Okay, sure, that's obvious. But when kids are you know, two, three past that point of that initial word and they're still non speaking. That's a really good indicator. And I have a very specific client in mind. We may can like do another Uh session just all about him because like his story is so fascinating. It's really what brought me into the connection between sensory and gestalt. But You know, when they're not speaking, a lot of gestalts are intonational based and they could be these long scripts. And if their motor plan, if they're really young, if their motor plan is not supporting that, it may just look like You know, they're not speaking at all. Or they speak but it's they use the
Melanie Weber 3:42
They're babbling a lot or they use the jargon. When you're not hearing those big words, but I've had GLPs just be completely silent. And that's doesn't feel like a GLP because we listen for that intonational. pattern in their language, but when they're dysregulated, you know, they often just choose not to speak at all. And we know that a lot with Autistic people choosing the to be selectively mute when they're dysregulated. So to me, that totally makes sense.
Jesse 4:07
That's such a good point. I hadn't even really thought about the connection between the younger kids and then older adults also choosing to be non-speaking when they're dysregulated. So that's a great point. Okay. So being non-speaking is sign number one. What is sign number two? What's behind door number two?
Melanie Weber 4:26
Behind door number two, you have children who have very specific gestalt that I mean they're they're telling you and they communicate when they're dysregulated, but it may not be a very literal.

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