The Ringer NFL Show
Episodes
What We Learned in Week 9: Jayden Daniels's Injury, NFC North Chaos, and the Bills D Steps Up!
03 Nov 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Diante Lee to share their instant reactions to and analysis of the most intriguing story lines that emerged from...
Predicting the Week 9 NFL Headlines
31 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by JP Acosta from CBS Sports to take a hard look at the weekend slate and try to determine what story lines will be dominating NFL med...
2025 NFL Rookie Check-in With Daniel Jeremiah
30 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Daniel Jeremiah from ESPN joins Sheil on the pod to analyze and debate how the 2025 NFL draft class is performing so far this season. (00:00) 2025 NF...
Fraud Watch: Harsh Truths About the Bears, Steelers, and Jaguars!
29 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Austin Gayle take a hard look at this season's statistics for a few NFL teams whose recent successes may be distracting f...
NFL Trade Deadline Primer: Buyers, Sellers, and Deals That Make Sense!
28 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil scans the NFL trade market and uses his expertise to determine which struggling teams should cut bait with some of their assets at the upcoming ...
The Biggest Winners From Week 8 in the NFL
27 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s own Diante Lee joins Sheil on the show to analyze, debate, and discuss teams that played their best games during Sunday Week 8 action. ...
Predicting the Week 8 NFL Headlines
24 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Danny Kelly from The Ringer Fantasy Football Show get together and use their expertise to decipher which players, coaches, and teams will ha...
Five NFL Fake Trades That Need to Happen
23 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Diante Lee to share and debate imaginary NFL trades that they feel should definitely be implemented before this ...
The Least Watchable Teams in the NFL
22 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Anthony Dabbundo to analyze and debate which teams around the league they’ll be refusing to watch on Sundays g...
Power Ranking the NFC Contenders After Week 7
21 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz to analyze and debate the NFC teams that have positioned themselves for the most success going into ...
The Takes That Matter from Week 7
20 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s own Austin Gayle joins Sheil after Sunday’s NFL action to analyze and shine a light on the teams who emerged with the most compelling...
Predicting the Week 7 NFL Headlines
17 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Field Yates from ESPN take a look at the weekend slate and use their expert analysis to determine which players, coaches, and teams will hav...
Get Serious! Bills' Struggles, Steelers as a Contender, Bears' Playoff Chances, and More.
16 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Mike Sando from The Athletic take a look at the results from the first six weeks of the season and talk about whether the trends they’re s...
MVP Tiers: The Long Shots, Sleepers, and Favorites After Week 6
15 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Diante Lee employ a tier system to analyze and debate who should be the frontrunners for MVP after six weeks of NFL actio...
Redrafting the 2024 NFL QB Class | Ringer NFL
14 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Dave Dameshek from the Football America! show get together to take a look at 7 of the top quarterbacks taken in the 2024 NFL draft and rank ...
Super Bowl Tiers: Which Teams Are Actual Contenders After Week 6?
13 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil scans the league after all of the Week 6 Sunday action and shares which teams he thinks have all the elements necessary to go to the Super Bowl,...
Predicting the Week 6 NFL Headlines
10 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Seth Walder from ESPN check the pulse of the NFL to discern what all the pundits will be buzzing about after the final whistle is blown on t...
The NFL's Four Worst Coaching Performances Through Week 5
09 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Patrick Daugherty from NBC Sports to talk about some of the NFL head coaches who have yet to establish winning cultures for their r...
What Does the Joe Flacco Trade Tell Us About the Bengals and Browns?
08 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz get together to share their instant reactions and analysis on a big trade that saw the Cleveland Browns send ...
The NFL's 5 Best Ceiling-Raising Coaches Through Week 5
07 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by "Golic & Golic" co-host Mike Golic Jr. to debate and analyze some of the NFL coaches around the league who’ve exceeded the expect...
Week 5 In the NFL: Drake Maye's Moment, No More Unbeatens, and Bummed Out Bottom-Dwellers
06 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s own Diante Lee joins Sheil to analyze a few of the most newsworthy results of Sunday’s NFL action and discuss how they’ve defined t...
The Three Players Who Will Define Week 5
03 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports and the Football 301 podcast joins Sheil to discuss some of the NFL players around the league with the most compelling nar...
Stats That Matter After the First Month of the NFL Season
02 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s own Austin Gayle joins Sheil to analyze and discuss some very telling statistics that paint a picture of where some teams are after fou...
We're Cooked: A One-Month NFL Misery Index
01 Oct 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Hanzus from the Heed the Call NFL Podcast stops by the pod to talk with Sheil about some of the teams around the league that have had particularly...
Inside the Jerry Jones Media Bubble: Is He Winning or Losing the Narrative in Dallas?
30 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Bryan Curtis from The Ringer’s Press Box podcast joins Sheil to share his experiences in the Jerry World media scrum while covering the epic Cowboys...
The Packers Are On Fraud Watch, and Who Will Surprise in the AFC?
29 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s Diante Lee joins Sheil after the grueling Packers-Cowboys tie on ‘Sunday Night Football’ to discuss some of the emerging storylines...
Mike Macdonald Needs to Trust Sam Darnold More, With Jacson Bevens
26 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Jacson Bevens from Cigar Thoughts joins Sheil on the pod to break down and analyze the Seattle Seahawks’ thrilling victory over the Arizona Cardinal...
Most Disappointing Teams Through Week 3, With Dan Pizzuta
25 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Dan Pizzuta from Snaps & Stats joins Sheil on the pod to talk about a few of the teams in the NFL that have yet to live up to their preseason hype in ...
Brian Daboll Needs to Hit a Bull's-Eye With Jaxson Dart, With Pat Daugherty
24 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Pat Daugherty from NBC Sports to discuss the news of the Giants benching Russell Wilson for Jaxson Dart, and what it means for both...
Dan Campbell Isn't Concerned With Your Lions Coordinator Questions, With Diante Lee
23 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s Diante Lee joins Sheil to discuss, debate, and analyze the Detroit Lions' impressive victory over the Baltimore Ravens in a ‘Monday N...
NFC Madness: What We Learned About Contenders in Week 3, With Ted Nguyen
22 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Ted Nguyen from The Athletic to analyze how some of the hot-button teams in the NFC fared in Sunday’s action and talk about wheth...
Week 3 Backup QB Rankings With Steven Ruiz
19 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz joins Sheil on the pod to offer his expert analysis on some of the second-string quarterbacks who will be stepping out ...
Do We Believe in the Colts, Chargers, or Bucs? With Mike Sando.
18 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Mike Sando from The Athletic joins the pod to examine Daniel Jones’s resurgence, the L.A. Chargers’ hot streak, and Tampa Bay’s impressive perfo...
Hope or Dysfunction? New-Look Bears Off to a Rocky Start, With Tyler Dunne.
17 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Founder of the Go Long Substack and podcast Tyler Dunne stops by the show to talk with Sheil about the Chicago Bears' curiously slow start to the 2025...
Bengals to Blame for Joe Burrow’s Injury Woes? It’s Complicated, With Ben Baby
16 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Ben Baby from ESPN to dive deep into the Joe Burrow injury timeline and talk about what the Cincinnati Bengals can do to keep their...
0-2? Yes. But Don't Bury the Chiefs Just Yet, With Nora Princiotti
15 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Nora Princiotti get together to talk about how concerned we should be with the Chiefs’ rough first couple of weeks of t...
Micah Parsons Has Made the Packers the NFC's Team to Beat, With JP Acosta
12 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and JP Acosta from SB Nation get together to share their instant reactions to the Green Bay Packers’ dominating win over the Washington Comman...
The Week 2 NFL Storylines That Actually Matter, With Lindsay Jones
11 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Lindsay Jones from The Ringer joins the pod to talk about some of the teams and upcoming games that have especially intriguing implications as we ente...
The Giants Need to Get Serious and Start Jaxson Dart, With John Jastremski
10 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
John Jastremski from the Ringer Gambling Show and New York, New York podcasts stops by to talk with Sheil about the bad vibes surrounding the Giants’...
New Bears Look a Lot Like the Old Bears, With Josh Norris
09 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Josh Norris from Underdog Fantasy gets together with Sheil to analyze the Minnesota Vikings’ comeback win against the Chicago Bears on ‘Monday Nig...
The Ravens and Bills Deliver an Instant Classic, With Mallory Rubin
08 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Mallory Rubin convene after a thrilling ‘Sunday Night Football’ game that saw the Buffalo Bills erase a 15-point four...
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly from Cowboys-Eagles With Diante Lee
05 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s Diante Lee get together to share their instant reaction to the Eagles' win over the Cowboys on opening night of the 2025 NFL ...
Why Week 1 Really Matters With Andrew Whitworth
04 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Former All-Pro tackle and co-host of the Fitz & Whit podcast, Andrew Whitworth, joins the show to talk about his favorite Week 1 matchups, and debat...
QBs Most Likely to Get Benched in 2025 With Steven Ruiz
03 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz to talk about some of the quarterbacks around the league who are starting for their respective teams...
Bold Predictions for the 2025 NFL Season
02 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil returns to unleash his hottest predictions for what he thinks will happen to some of the players, coaches, and teams around the league that are ...
Kapadia Court Decides This Season’s Breakout QB With Shawn Syed
01 Sep 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Shawn Syed from SumerSports stops by the pod to make his case for some of the sneaky-good QBs around the league who are poised to make the leap in 202...
Micah Parsons Is a Packer, and Jerry Jones May Have Lost Cowboys Fans Forever
29 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Diante Lee to share their instant reaction to the shocking blockbuster trade that sent star edge rusher Micah Pa...
An Early Look at the 2026 NFL Draft QB Sweepstakes With Fran Duffy
28 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Fran Duffy from AllCity Network to talk about some of the biggest 2026 NFL draft prospects heading into college football season, wi...
How Many Teams Could Actually Win the Super Bowl?
27 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil Kapadia breaks down all 32 NFL teams through his patented tier system and uses it to produce his Super Bowl champion pick for the 2025-26 season...
Favorite Over/Under Win Totals With Anthony Dabbundo
26 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and The Ringer’s own Anthony Dabbundo take a look at the 2025 NFL schedule and share takes on some of the most polarizing over/under team win ...
NFL Hipster Takes I Can Get Behind With Ben Solak
25 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by Ringer alum Ben Solak from ESPN to analyze and debate some of the team and player takes that are being propagated by the most educa...
The Case for, and Against, an Eagles Repeat With Andy Greenwald
22 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Andy Greenwald from The Watch stops by the show to talk about the Philadelphia Eagles' prospects for the upcoming season after celebrating a dominant ...
The Only MVP Candidates I’m Considering
21 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
On today’s pod, Sheil shares his three NFL MVP tiers, breaks down the criteria for each level, and shines a light on the players he sees as the fron...
Dissecting the Colts' Failed Anthony Richardson Experiment With Steven Ruiz
20 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil is joined by The Ringer’s own Steven Ruiz to share their first reactions to the news of the Indianapolis Colts naming Daniel Jones their start...
Making the Case for the AFC's Top Playoff Sleeper With Nate Tice
19 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil gets together with Nate Tice from Yahoo Sports’ Football 301 pod to discuss some of the AFC Conference teams that may be operating under the r...
Making the Case for the NFC's Top Playoff Sleeper With Danny Heifetz
18 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil gets together with The Ringer Fantasy Football Show’s own Danny Heifetz to shine a light on some of the teams in the NFC that may be lurking b...
Preseason Week 1 QB Review, Best NFL Teams of the Quarter Century, and More
13 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante return to recap their favorite moments from the first week of the NFL preseason, with a special focus on the young quarterbacks look...
NFL Preseason Week 1 Story Lines
06 Aug 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante scan the league to analyze and debate the biggest story lines they’re excited about going into the first week of the NFL p...
Training Camp Nuggets, Cam Newton Vs. Jalen Hurts, and More
31 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together to debate and analyze some of the most intriguing training camp buzz around the league. Topics include: Matt S...
NFLPA Drama, Preseason Watchability Draft, and More
24 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante start the pod by discussing the relationship status between Dolphins teammates Tua Tagovailoa and Tyreek Hill, before diving into hi...
Tristan Wirfs's Injury, Ruiz Vs. Diante’s Top-10 QB List, and More
10 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante start the pod by examining the effect Tristan Wirfs's injury will have on the Bucs' season. They then take a look at the Washington ...
Who Won the Minkah Fitzpatrick-Jalen Ramsey Trade? Plus, NFL Team Futures Buy or Sell!
02 Jul 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante get together to share their reactions to the blockbuster trade that sent Minkah Fitzpatrick to the Dolphins and all-star corner Jale...
NFC South Offseason Grades
24 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante use their expertise to analyze the NFC South division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level ...
NFC East Offseason Grades
17 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante use their expertise to analyze the NFC East division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level o...
NFC North Offseason Grades
11 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante use their expertise to analyze the NFC North division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level ...
Aaron Rodgers Signs With the Pittsburgh Steelers
05 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together for an emergency pod to share their instant reactions to the news that quarterback Aaron Rodgers has signed wit...
AFC South Offseason Grades
04 Jun 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante use their expertise to analyze the AFC South division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level ...
AFC West Offseason Grades
28 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante use their expertise to analyze the AFC West division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level o...
Brock Purdy’s Contract Extension, Plus NFC West Offseason Grades
21 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by sharing their reactions to the 49ers extending quarterback Brock Purdy’s contract and talking about what ...
AFC North Offseason Grades
13 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante put their microscopes on the AFC North division and discuss each team's offseason moves to determine what their level of suc...
Ravens Release Justin Tucker, Plus AFC East Offseason Grades and Predictions
06 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by discussing the fallout surrounding the Ravens' release of kicker Justin Tucker. They then go through every ...
Shedeur Sanders Prank Call Fallout, J.J. McCarthy’s Readiness, and Offseason Veteran Updates
01 May 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by discussing the latest buzz around the Shedeur Sanders prank call scandal, and sharing their takes on J.J. M...
2025 NFL Draft Leftovers
29 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante return to analyze and debate some of the biggest buzz that has materialized around the league since the 2025 NFL Draft ended...
NFL Draft Winners and Losers
27 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together after the third day of the NFL draft and they start their conversation by discussing the Browns taking Shedeur ...
2025 NFL Draft First-Round Recap
25 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together right after the 32nd pick in the NFL draft to debate and share their instant reactions to the biggest story lin...
NFL Draft Rumors Buy or Sell? Plus Draft Props!
22 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together to analyze and debate some of the biggest rumors floating around the NFL media sphere as we head towards the 20...
The Final Ringer NFL Show 2025 Mock Draft
17 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante put on their GM hats and use their expertise to simulate and debate draft and trade scenarios for all 32 picks in the first ...
AFC Draft Confidence Meter
15 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Diante return with their patented multi-tiered system to analyze, debate, and speculate on how teams in the AFC and their respective GMs are...
NFC Draft Confidence Meter
11 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante employ a multi-tiered system to analyze, debate, and speculate on which teams and GMs in the NFC are most likely to excel an...
The (First) Ringer NFL Show 2025 Mock Draft
08 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante put on their GM hats, scan the big prospect boards, and take turns picking, analyzing, and debating their individual selecti...
NFL Rule Changes Update, Trey Hendrickson's Standoff, Micah Parsons Buzz, and More
03 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante return to discuss updates on the proposed NFL rule changes from earlier in the week. They then talk about Bengals VP Katie B...
NFL Competition Committee Breakdown
01 Apr 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together to analyze, debate, and collectively vote on some of the rule change proposals that were recently announced by ...
Who Has the Most at Stake in the NFL Draft?
27 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together to survey the league and shine a light on the teams and GMs who have the most to win or lose in the upcoming NF...
Five Big NFL Draft Questions
25 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante are back to answer five of Sheil’s first-round draft questions. They start by discussing how confident they are that Cam W...
Aaron Rodgers Watch Continues, NFL March Madness Comps, and More
19 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by discussing the latest developments surrounding Aaron Rodgers’s future landing destinations (3:24) and the...
The Bengals Extend Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins, Plus Free Agency Superlatives
18 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by sharing their reactions to Ja’Marr Chase and Tee Higgins' new deals that keep them on the Cincinnati Beng...
Spinning the QB Roulette Wheel With Aaron Rodgers, Russell Wilson, and More
14 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together in the midst of the NFL free agency frenzy to talk about all of the big QB moves around the league. They begin ...
NFL Free Agency Winners and Losers (So Far)
11 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together to discuss all of the high-profile moves that happened during the NFL’s official tampering period ahead of th...
DK Metcalf Requests a Trade, Free Agency Matchmaking, and More
06 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante start the pod by discussing DK Metcalf’s request to be traded from the Seattle Seahawks and debating the most optimal land...
NFL Franchise Tag Deadline Passes and Free Agency Mega-Preview!
05 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
The Ringer’s Sheil Kapadia, Diante Lee, and Steven Ruiz get together moments after the passing of the NFL franchise tag deadline to discuss the big ...
NFL Scouting Combine Winners and Losers
03 Mar 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante get together after an eventful NFL scouting combine to share their overall reactions and speculate on which prospects, teams, and tr...
Matthew Stafford’s LA Future, the $40M Backup Plan, and a “Tush Push” Ban?!
26 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
From Radio Row at the NFL Combine, The Ringer’s Nora Princiotti and Steven Ruiz sit down in-person to discuss five burning offseason topics: How Mat...
The 10 Draft Commandments
17 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Steven and Diante get ready for the start of the football calendar by analyzing and debating some of the most common clichés and trends NFL teams fal...
Offseason Primer: Joe Burrow’s Pressure Tactics, Worst Lessons From Super Bowl LIX, and More
13 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil and Diante return after a short recovery from Super Bowl LIX and start the pod off by breaking down Joe Burrow’s not-so-subtle comments about ...
Super Bowl LIX Recap
10 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante emerge from the green confetti and champagne to share their instant reactions to the Philadelphia Eagles dominating win over...
Super Bowl LIX Preview
07 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, and Diante get together on Radio Row in New Orleans to analyze, dissect, and share their picks for Super Bowl LIX between the Kansas Ci...
Poetic Justice: The Year of Kendrick Lamar
06 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Ahead of Kendrick Lamar’s Super Bowl halftime performance, Ringer senior staff writer Justin Charity explores some of the critical moments of Kendri...
Five Big Questions Heading Into Super Bowl LIX
05 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, Diante, and Nora bring their pens and whiteboards to The Ringer's Radio Row booth at Super Bowl LIX and collectively work out some of t...
Super Bowl LIX Media Night Recap, Myles Garrett's Trade Request, and More
04 Feb 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil, Steven, Diante, and Nora get together after a wild Super Bowl Media Night to discuss their favorite moments from the event. They then talk abou...
Floor, Ceiling, & Median Outcomes for the Cowboys and Raiders. Plus, Early Super Bowl Thoughts.
30 Jan 2025
Contributed by Lukas
Sheil Kapadia, Diante Lee, and Steven Ruiz kick off the show by reacting to Bill Belichick's proclamation that it's time to rename the Lombardi Trophy...