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The Toast

Tiny Violins: Wednesday, January 21st, 2026

21 Jan 2026

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Chapter 1: What did Taylor Swift allegedly text Blake Lively about Justin Baldoni?

3.946 - 36.779 Jackie Oshry

I sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Wednesday? Wednesday. What a weird week. Not complaining. No, thank you to Martin Luther. Happy Wednesday, Jackie. It's hump day, a very special day of the week here.

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36.819 - 56.46 Claudia Oshry

How you doing? I'm doing good. My morning was all far-clemped because last night I spilled all over my makeup. I had to wash my makeup brushes. They were still a little damp this morning. And it was just a clusterfuck. And we're interviewing someone today for tomorrow's episode. Not to tease, but... There's a lot at stake visually today. There's a lot at stake visually today.

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56.48 - 61.467 Claudia Oshry

And I was like, of course today, when there's a lot at stake visually, my bronzer brush is a little damp.

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61.667 - 65.872 Jackie Oshry

You know, like just a quick fix had you called your sister turdy, just run it into the blow dryer.

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65.892 - 74.964 Claudia Oshry

It'll be drying 10 seconds. Oh, true. I was sitting there with my blow dryer, but I had this new little nifty machine. So I just like kept running it in the dry cycle. It didn't work, but.

75.124 - 76.506 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, well, if you were to ever just call me.

76.566 - 81.793 Claudia Oshry

Work slowly. Your life would be better. I couldn't call you. I couldn't talk because there was like a sleeping baby. It was just a lot.

Chapter 2: What are the highlights of the 2026 Razzie nominations?

81.933 - 86.419 Claudia Oshry

There was a lot going on. Okay. Okay. So happy to be here, Wednesday Tings.

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86.479 - 97.796 Jackie Oshry

The news keeps newsin'. The news keeps newsin'. Kind of a bombshell episode yesterday. Of course, you know, a myriad of reflections from people, feedback, good, bad, I disagree, Team Brooklyn, Team whatever.

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Chapter 3: What did Margot Robbie say about her co-dependency with Jacob Elordi?

97.816 - 106.79 Jackie Oshry

And I just love spirited debate. I do, about nonsensical things. Although, like, the deeper we get into this, it's really not nonsensical. It's unbelievably tragic.

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106.85 - 119.869 Claudia Oshry

No, we were talking last night. It's making me sick for Victoria. Like, I'm sick for Victoria. You see Victoria posted three Instagram stories this morning? No. And Nicola keeps posting nonsense, like no caption, just like her in a pair of sweatpants, like rage baiting.

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119.889 - 122.674 Jackie Oshry

Aesthetic, yeah. Well, you know, it is a good time for engagement.

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Chapter 4: What challenges are Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce facing in their relationship?

122.714 - 131.247 Jackie Oshry

She posted, it's Emma's birthday, Baby Spice. So she posted happy birthday, Baby Spice. Yeah, happy birthday, Baby Spice. And then like an old reel, like a clip from one of their music videos.

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Chapter 5: Who are Jordon Hudson and Alix Earle, and what did they do at the National Championship?

131.647 - 145.162 Jackie Oshry

And then her third was... supporting Cruz or Romeo, I forget which one it was. I think he's like a performer and he had a performance sellout. So she posted the poster. So proud of you at Cruz.

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145.182 - 151.555 Claudia Oshry

Well, that's giving like what you said is a lie because I support my children. Right. It was like a little heavy handed.

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Chapter 6: What advice do the hosts give about dealing with a toxic mother-in-law?

151.535 - 180.107 Jackie Oshry

well i'm just sick for her like imagine like the person who's like making your life a misery who you're like feuding beefing within the public like is your own child so you can't even really root against them right of course you know what i mean like you don't want to see someone talking like right clowning on your child but then there's also now like ai generated sexually suggestive content about you um i like posted one and i thought it was funny and then i saw them getting like progressively more graphic and i was like wait this actually isn't funny so it's like people are making sexually explicit content about your mom and whose fault it is it it's kind of yours so it's just actually a really complicated

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180.087 - 192.065 Claudia Oshry

I haven't seen anything like super inappropriate. The ones I've seen so far have been really funny. It's like AI generated videos of the way that Victoria was probably dancing at the wedding. And it's like silly. And it's like the break dancer from the Olympics. Like that's all funny and good.

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192.085 - 209.772 Jackie Oshry

Yeah. I saw them like, you know, getting more, you know, suggestive and like tighter clothes. Well, that's what he had said. Correct. The, the, uh, What the hell? Insinuation. That's my girl. I was gonna say the impression, but that's not right. The insinuation was made by one Brooklyn Beckham. Pelts, excuse me.

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210.193 - 223.373 Claudia Oshry

Yeah. So it's honestly sad. And like, I know a lot of people are on Brooklyn's side. And I understand when you like lay... When you look at it, it's like, how could you be toxic mother? I'm just like, I'm never going to side with that person who does that.

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223.593 - 248.303 Jackie Oshry

That's exactly, exactly my takeaway. Someone who's airing the family laundry, barring anything absolutely crazy and disgusting happening. I'm never going to be on your side. And, you know, I was chatting with a friend of mine who had a really interesting theory. I want to give credit, but like. What's the problem? Okay, just in case this theory is true, it was from Susie Weiss.

248.644 - 266.29 Jackie Oshry

She had a good theory because we were gossiping about it. She's someone whose opinion I respect. She's also a very family-oriented person. So I'm like, what do you make of it? She said, you know, I feel like maybe Nicola could be pregnant. I had that thought too because he mentioned our future children twice. And like this is such a fiercely protective thing of Brooklyn to do for his wife.

266.33 - 269.855 Jackie Oshry

You know, it seems like it's been a really bad situation for a long time. But like, why now?

Chapter 7: How should one handle a partner's annoying eating habits?

269.955 - 284.496 Jackie Oshry

Why this Instagram story? Like, what was the boiling point that he had to put his foot down? Like, it's been rather quiet. And, you know, he's a young boy, perhaps on the brink of fatherhood for the first time. And that can send you into like a really overprotective overdrive. So that was Susie's thought, which I actually thought was quite poignant.

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285.725 - 295.566 Claudia Oshry

There's potential, you know? I thought the same when he talked about their future children, that there's, you know, maybe they're thinking about children, but...

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Chapter 8: What is the latest on Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's wedding planning?

295.968 - 297.27 Claudia Oshry

I don't think she's pregnant.

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297.29 - 300.756 Jackie Oshry

Yeah. So all that to say, we will, of course, continue to be speaking.

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300.776 - 303.781 Claudia Oshry

But I wouldn't speculate on a woman's pregnancy or a body.

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303.841 - 320.49 Jackie Oshry

There's also lots of Justin Baldoni, Blake Lively news. I feel like they've been kind of quiet. Things have been coming out over the last couple of months. Nothing worth reporting on. And I feel like it's just like for the people who are really obsessed with it. But so much, the unredacted Taylor Swift text messages came out, the unredacted Ben Affleck emails.

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320.47 - 330.185 Jackie Oshry

The unredacted group chat between Blake Lively, Ryan Reynolds, and Matt Damon and his wife. And shout out to the girls on TikTok because Jackie was like, who has time to read all these text messages? I'm like, certainly not me.

330.405 - 337.616 Claudia Oshry

I want to see a screenshot of the text. I know, but not a court document. Right. It's like all transcribed and written out in paragraphs. Like, I need to see the text.

337.636 - 352.19 Jackie Oshry

That's how I can process texts. When I was getting my makeup done this morning, like the girls on TikTok who are obsessed, they put their own spin on it and they all hate Blake Lively. So I was just trying to be unbiased listening. When I was doing my makeup, I put the TikTok on and they read me all the text messages, which was so delightful. So I read the ones between Blake and Taylor.

352.53 - 373.271 Jackie Oshry

And they are exactly what you think they are, like two feminist women. How you think Blake and Taylor talk to one another is how they, I'm your Khaleesi, you're my dragon. You could say what you want about the two of them. They are who they are. It's so authentic. Then I read the group text between Lucy and Matt Damon with Blake and Ryan.

373.672 - 396.336 Jackie Oshry

Then I read this kind of email that Blake wrote to Ben Affleck. And then also like this letter that she wrote to the Producers Guild, which is kind of- What did she write to Ben Affleck? So at this stage, a lot of the documents that were being... Is this a story? Yes. So should we get into the story? Wait. I watched the first episode of Tell Me Lies. Okay. We're going to talk about Tell Me Lies.

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