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The Toast

Wokechella: Monday, April 13th, 2026

13 Apr 2026

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Chapter 1: What is discussed at the start of this section?

3.946 - 13.502 Rachel Zoe

Good morning, girlies, it's the toast. It's Jackson, Claude, and we're your hosts.

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14.003 - 18.43 Jackie Oshry

It's your favorite show, the fast five things you need to know.

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19.051 - 31.44 Alex Cooper

We'll start your day off swirly. It's the toast. They sound amazing. Welcome back to The Toast and happy Monday after Coachella. It's Toastchella. Welcome back. Hey, Jax, how you motherfucking dern?

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31.661 - 34.027 Jackie Oshry

Dern good. Toastchella greater than Coachella.

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34.869 - 42.432 Alex Cooper

Do you feel this call? Wokechella. There was like so many scandals. I know you don't even know about them because a lot of them are happening on TikTok.

42.452 - 44.837 Jackie Oshry

It was woke wires crossing Chella.

44.857 - 45.058

Yeah.

45.519 - 48.706 Alex Cooper

Oh, I loved it. We have so much to talk about.

48.726 - 50.931 Jackie Oshry

Oh, I want to know more than what I know.

Chapter 2: What happened at Coachella 2026?

61.632 - 64.878 Alex Cooper

Hey, Jax, welcome back to the show. I didn't speak to you all weekend. We kept missing each other.

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64.898 - 75.114 Jackie Oshry

We were playing phone tag all weekend. I think starting Friday night, we actually spoke a little bit Friday night. But then, of course, like Ben walked into the room and I was done. Ruined everything. By the way, classic Claude.

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76.376 - 80.363 Alex Cooper

Claude? Classic Ben. He comes in the room and just like demands like so controlling.

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80.383 - 82.907 Jackie Oshry

But like classic Claude hanging up for him.

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83.967 - 89.957 Alex Cooper

Yeah sorry like I'm like if you're in the room with me you do take precedent unless there's like an emergency on the phone.

89.977 - 92.882 Jackie Oshry

No I'm just saying I feel like people wouldn't like think that about you.

93.623 - 101.636 Alex Cooper

I let a man control me and I think some of you bitches could actually like benefit from being controlled by your man because some of you guys are out of control. I'm 100% kidding. Yeah no.

101.976 - 105.402 Jackie Oshry

She lets a man control her. I just feel like people don't know that about her.

105.652 - 127.26 Alex Cooper

No, and I just want to say letting a man control you is grossly underrated. I'm not talking about obviously in like a toxic, manipulative, abusive way. I'm talking about just like a few years ago, I made the decision to like let Ben do stuff. Okay. Because I'm very controlling and like I have to do it. And then I think maybe when I was pregnant, I didn't have the energy. I couldn't do things.

Chapter 3: What is the significance of the Starbucks Creator House?

127.28 - 146.228 Alex Cooper

So I started relying on Ben for random things. And now Ben does a lot of things. And I feel like I'm actually doing less. And it's such a genuine pleasure to be a kept woman in whatever regard, whether your husband pays the bills or your husband does all the physical labor in the house. Normalize letting your husband do stuff. It's kind of amazing.

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146.709 - 150.935 Jackie Oshry

Okay. So that's not him controlling you. If you just relinquished a tiny bit of control.

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151.536 - 156.791 Alex Cooper

He thinks he's controlling me. but I'm really controlling him. Tea.

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156.811 - 162.481 Jackie Oshry

Well, all else to say, we didn't get to talk this weekend because Ben kept walking in and demanding your time.

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162.502 - 168.032 Alex Cooper

I'm exhausted. I am exhausted. I did not stop socializing this weekend. Like my social battery, zero.

168.613 - 169.915 Jackie Oshry

Sorry to hear it.

170.047 - 180.659 Alex Cooper

I went out Friday night after bedtime, Saturday night after bedtime, and I was out all day Sunday socializing with friends. I guess that's what happens when you just pick up and hang out with your family for three months straight. You do have to come back.

180.679 - 181.4 Jackie Oshry

You have to catch up with friends.

181.42 - 183.042 Alex Cooper

And mend fences, yeah.

Chapter 4: How do social dynamics influence celebrity interactions?

379.386 - 386.312 Alex Cooper

I'm like, your big toe. It's very painful, actually. She's like, you guys are fucking with me. She literally did not believe us. I'm like, why would we make that up? Like, 100%.

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386.352 - 387.653 Jackie Oshry

But you would.

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387.633 - 389.136 Alex Cooper

I would.

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389.577 - 393.726 Jackie Oshry

Yeah, so it's reasonable that she thought you were messing with her.

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393.786 - 407.326 Alex Cooper

Then I also went out Saturday night. Like, yeah, I went to the polo bar. I'm extremely cool. Like, I'm sorry. I don't know what you guys want me to say. I went to the polo bar and I had an amazing meal and I had an amazing time. I was so tired. And then on Sunday, I woke up and I went to Jersey City.

407.346 - 418.902 Alex Cooper

And you know, I only crossed state lines for one person, two people, one household, one household, three people, one household. I got to meet the Taylor's baby. I haven't met them. And Ben has met her weirdly before me. Oh my God.

418.922 - 420.584 Jackie Oshry

Taylor, Taylor and Taylor Jr.

421.325 - 421.666 Alex Cooper

TJ.

422.206 - 423.909 Jackie Oshry

Do they call her Taylor Jr.?

Chapter 5: What are the conspiracy theories surrounding Starbucks and Zionism?

2653.6 - 2675.068 Alex Cooper

And it's like, the crazy thing about the Starbucks thing is that the entire boycott about them being Zionists is actually based on delusional conspiracy theories. Because I, somebody who has grown up Jewish and Zionist my whole life... Everyone I know drinks Starbucks begrudgingly because it's like, yes, they have a Jewish CEO. They refuse to launch stores in Israel. It's always been weird.

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2675.509 - 2692.525 Alex Cooper

So it's the fact that they're being boycotted for being Zionist when in fact they are most likely an anti-Zionist organization. It's like your conspiracy theory isn't even legitimate. Like it's insane. So now everyone's getting so bent out of shape, literally destroying the lives of all these creators based on false theories. Like it's insane.

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Chapter 6: What happened with Michaela Nogueira's trip to Portugal?

2692.945 - 2697.19 Alex Cooper

Go off. No, I agree. Like, Not my circus, not my monkeys.

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2697.21 - 2698.031 Jackie Oshry

Hysterical stuff.

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2700.554 - 2704.078 Jackie Oshry

Was Michaela Nogueira there? No, she went to Portugal.

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2704.739 - 2715.452 Alex Cooper

She went to Portugal. That's my queen. She's Portuguese. Family trip to Portugal starts now. She flew coach. Oh, my God. I love her. I know. And all the comments were, I can't believe you're flying coach. And she was responding like, LOL, why?

Chapter 7: What trends are emerging from Coachella fashion this year?

2715.932 - 2724.823 Alex Cooper

And it's like, well, because you've literally never flown coach in the time that you've been famous. And it was a family trip. So I don't think she wanted to buy like 30 first class seats. So she just had to slum it and coach.

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2725.394 - 2746.09 Jackie Oshry

She's just like us. Mikayla Naguero. I love her. Also, some more like Coachella news. Teddy Swims. I didn't know he was performing. I might have gotten myself there. You would have went. He brought out Joe Jonas and Vanessa Carlton during his Coachella set, like really giving the people what he wants, what they want. Obsessed. Like he should headline next year. Like, thank you.

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2746.31 - 2759.224 Jackie Oshry

He should headline next year. All in all, I feel like the performers, like they got really good people that are commercially successful that like made news in addition to, you know, their Martinez brothers and other artists.

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2759.244 - 2779.506 Alex Cooper

Yeah, that's the thing about Coachella. It's actually like inherently like a rave slash like alt festival. Like when we went, Tame Impala was one of the headliners and then they got Lady Gaga and it was like the biggest deal ever. They usually, how it had started was like as a niche thing and now it's like so commonplace culturally relevant that they have to, they have the big Beyonce.

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2779.546 - 2792.914 Jackie Oshry

I feel like they have like niche performers during the day and then like a couple huge commercially successful artists, especially at night for like the headliners and like that works. And ticket sales like have gone up. I was reading like over the last few years, they were like dropping.

2792.894 - 2794.979 Alex Cooper

Jackie, it's because of the scandal, I'm telling you.

2794.999 - 2805.663 Jackie Oshry

I know you don't know about it. And last year was the first year that tickets didn't sell out the first day. It took a month to sell out tickets. But this year, they sold out very quickly. The resale was so high, and a lot of people are crediting that to Justin Bieber.

Chapter 8: What major news did NASA announce about Artemis II?

2805.983 - 2812.017 Jackie Oshry

Wow. The fact that he was on the ticket, because you can see him. Well, that's big. You can go see Sabrina.

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2812.098 - 2828.47 Alex Cooper

I also want to say it's crazy that Taylor Swift has never done Coachella and I don't think that she ever will except I could see her doing it one year and being the headliner all three nights and creating like a three night show. Do you know what I mean? She has to do things differently because she's on a different level.

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2828.45 - 2844.557 Jackie Oshry

I don't think she would do that. I think it's too small for her. And I think if she did it all three nights, she would get so much hate from the usual Coachella people being like, this concert, this is our concert. You know, this isn't, she would get so much hate. I don't think it would be worth it unless they paid her so much money. I don't think they could afford her.

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2844.657 - 2845.538 Jackie Oshry

I don't think they could afford her.

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2845.558 - 2863.923 Alex Cooper

I love Coachella. like just as a consumer. And I love seeing it through the eyes of influencers. I feel like there's a big conversation, you know, influencers ruin Coachella. It's crazy how it's literally just a brand event. And there are two weekends and next weekend, quite literally not one brand activates, not one influencer goes, it's just a music festival.

2864.323 - 2865.966 Alex Cooper

So it's like- It's nice that they have two then.

2865.946 - 2889.321 Alex Cooper

yes yes like whatever vibe you're going for i love seeing the young hot influencers putting together their outfits like it makes me excited i loved watching um you know you know who's one of my best dress sister girl sally she was in alex's house she looked and alex's house like they're just like such like music girls like they just were so cool with their combat boots like they weren't going to like revolve fest they just like hung out with each other um to awesome music

2889.301 - 2913.823 Jackie Oshry

acquired style wore like a really cool pair of pants like i had a good time i saw acquired pants and what were you getting from the trends the fashion trends because i feel like coachella does sometimes like set trends and we can know what to expect like for a while it was like western was coming back then you know a little bit like like leathery bike mad max i felt like we're wearing this is what everyone's wearing what's that big low rise pants and a bikini top for a shirt

2913.803 - 2916.49 Jackie Oshry

Oh, well, that's been the trend for a while.

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