20Sales: The $100M CRO Bubble: Why Anthropic Are Causing a Comp Crisis | Why You Should Never Hire From Salesforce or Service Now | How to Hire, Train and Forecase in a World of AI with Chad Peets and Chris Degnan
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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
1h 19m
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8 chapters
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What are the $100M CRO packages and why are they controversial?
Even if you have the best product in the world, let's say that's the case, you're still going to leave money on the table if you have shitty salespeople. It's pretty simple. You can look at somebody's resume. If a guy's been at salesforce.com for the last five years, he's never opened a new logo.
Why are most elite salespeople considered order takers?
ServiceNow. Why would you want to hire people from ServiceNow? They don't know how to do any pipeline generation. First of all, you have to remind them, raising a round doesn't mean shit.
What is the secret to hiring top sales talent in early-stage startups?
The Ford deployed engineer is a glorified professional services person. Anthropic, in particular, is offering sums of money the likes of which we've never seen.
How are traditional pipeline generation methods becoming obsolete?
Anthropic, do you think they really give a shit how good their sales organization is? I mean, they'll say they do, but do they? They probably don't. Why should they? I know CRO is getting $100 million packages. I think Anthropic's a $4 or $5 trillion company.
What is the ARR scam and why are AI revenue numbers often misleading?
This is 20 Sales with me, Harry Stebbings, and I'm so excited for the show today. We have two of the greatest sales leaders of the last decade joining me. We have Chad Peets and we have Chris Degnan. Chad Peets is the most no BS, incredible sales leader who's worked across some of the most category defining companies of the last 10 years. And joining him, we have Chris Degnan, who took Snowflake from zero to over 4 billion in ARR. No other sales leader. has taken a company from nothing to that scale before. Joining together, this is a melting pot of 20 years of sales wisdom condensed into one incredible conversation.
How is Anthropic's compensation affecting the sales market?
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What mistakes do founders make when chasing venture valuations?
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How should companies adapt their sales strategies in a world dominated by AI?
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Harry, it's great to see in person. I don't think we've ever met in person.
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What are the $100M CRO packages and why are they controversial?
0:00–0:11
2
Why are most elite salespeople considered order takers?
0:11–0:18
3
What is the secret to hiring top sales talent in early-stage startups?
0:18–0:28
4
How are traditional pipeline generation methods becoming obsolete?
0:28–0:40
5
What is the ARR scam and why are AI revenue numbers often misleading?
0:40–1:16
6
How is Anthropic's compensation affecting the sales market?
1:16–2:45
7
What mistakes do founders make when chasing venture valuations?
2:45–3:12
8
How should companies adapt their sales strategies in a world dominated by AI?
3:12–1:19:41
Speakers
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