The Viall Files
E864 - Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit w/ Emily D Baker, Heather McMahan, Golden Globes, RHOSLC & Walmart Birkins
Tue, 07 Jan 2025
Welcome back to The Viall Files: Reality Recap! Emily D Baker joins us again to discuss Justin Baldoni’s lawsuit against The New York Times. Meanwhile, Heather McMahan joins to talk about her Hulu special, the Golden Globes, Zendaya and Tom Holland’s engagement, the Real Housewives of Salt Lake City, and being from the South. And don't forget… Jennifer Aydin is beefing with an airport Jersey Mike’s. Link to Justin Baldoni’s Lawsuit: https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/25473284/bi-https-media.pdf Link to Blake Lively’s Complaint: https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/1629cc34e562e325/4410b1d9-full.pdf Link to Stephanie Jones (Justin Baldoni’s Ex-Publicist)’s Complaint: https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/ViewDocument?docIndex=Xc9lTZnkJAsclCjfCv0G4g== “I think somebody should just release all of the text messages, I’ll go through them.” OUT NOW! Listen to Humble Brag with Cynthia Bailey and Crystal Kung Minkoff. Available wherever you get your podcasts and YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@humblebragpod https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/humble-brag-with-crystal-and-cynthia/id1774286896 Start your 7 Day Free Trial of Viall Files + here: https://viallfiles.supportingcast.fm/ Please make sure to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode and as always send in your relationship questions to [email protected] to be a part of our Monday episodes. Follow us on X/Twitter: https://twitter.com/TheViallFiles Listen To Disrespectfully now! Listen on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/disrespectfully/id1516710301 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0J6DW1KeDX6SpoVEuQpl7z?si=c35995a56b8d4038 Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCh8MqSsiGkfJcWhkan0D0w To Order Nick’s Book Go To: http://www.viallfiles.com If you would like to get some texting advice on Office Hours send an email to [email protected] with “Texting Office Hours” in the subject line! To advertise on the show, contact [email protected] or visit https://www.advertisecast.com/TheViallFiles THANK YOU TO OUR SPONSORS: Wayfair - Give your home the refresh it needs with Wayfair. Head to https://wayfair.com right now. Quince - Luxuriate in coziness, without the luxury price tag. Go to https://quince.com/VIALL for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Bilt - Start earning points on rent you’re already paying by going to https://joinbilt.com/VIALL Robinhood - The new gold standard is here with Robinhood Gold. To receive your 3% boost on annual IRA contributions, sign up at https://robinhood.com/gold Jolie - Jolie will give you your best skin & hair guaranteed. Head to https://jolieskinco.com/VIALL to try it out for yourself with FREE shipping. Timestamps: (00:00) - Intro(02:46) - Golden Globes (11:00) - Household Headlines (17:19) - Emily D Baker Joins (01:05:30) - Bravo Updates (01:30:33) - Heather McMahan Joins (02:30:44) - Outro Episode Socials: @viallfiles @nickviall @nnataliejjoy @theemilydbaker @heatherkmcmahan @justinkaphillips @the_mare_bare @leahgsilberstein @dereklanerussell
Chapter 1: What is Justin Baldoni’s lawsuit about?
I was in rot mode.
Oh, my God. Yeah. No, I was just trying to be like aesthetically pleasing. Like black and white.
I thought it was because I was.
I think we had like gone to lunch that day. We had like gone out. We left the house. Yesterday was like rough for both of us.
she was romanticizing your rot oh wow that's how you know it's love when you romanticize the rot yeah well we have a wild episode lined up for y'all the very hilarious very talented very wonderful heather mcmahon is with us shortly also emily baker is returning shortly she's coming up next uh because as we now know update justin belladoni did file a suit against the new york times
It did seem like a lot of the Justin stans who like last week felt, I don't know what they felt. Maybe they felt like, oh, we got it wrong or the tail between their legs. And it did feel like there was a lot of Justin stans loud and proud doing victory laps over the weekend. We want to break it down with Emily.
Obviously, we have our opinions of the case, but I want to bring on Emily first and just kind of ask her some questions, get her thoughts. We want to be as objective as possible. Obviously, we have our opinions, but I want to hear from Emily. I'm not even sure what she has to say about it, what her opinions on the case are. So we'll break it all down, give our thoughts, give our feelings.
That will be up in just a few moments. Also, the Golden Globes happened last night. Our friend of show, Nikki Glaser, crushed it. I'm really proud of Nikki, now that she needs our Our pride.
Oh, she killed.
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Chapter 2: What happened at the Golden Globes?
It serves the dual purpose of also responding to what is in Blake Lively's complaint and taking aim at that. And the complaint Blake Lively filed in the not the New York one, but in the California Civil Rights Board that we talked about more thoroughly was that Just showing a base level of what the complaint is to the California board.
It wasn't, I mean, it also showed the public that because it was given to the New York Times, but we know that there are thousands and thousands of text messages. So there's much that we as the public don't know on either side, but I never total up and be like, well, you put 10 in your complaint, you put 20. Sure.
That's more because it's everything is going to be cherry picked in the light most favorable to the people who are showing it. And I think both complaints are a good reminder that there are going to be multiple sides to any story in a lawsuit. And this is a long way from done. But Baldoni's team has picked a fight with a very difficult plaintiff.
I wonder if we will see them filing the counterclaim that they had talked about to Blake Lively's New York lawsuit down the road.
And what would that all that mean?
Suing the New York Times in California is going to be difficult. They might not even get to discovery on that. New York Times is going to make challenges regarding venue like, hey, you can't sue us in California. This isn't the right spot.
New York Times is going to make arguments of maybe, hey, this is slap protected, which when you get into anti-slap lawsuits, it's strategic litigation against public participation. Those laws are very strong in California. They run hand in hand with defamation because those lawsuits are to stop someone from speaking. And the New York Times can say, we're just giving appropriate comment.
You don't even get to go to discovery. So the lawsuit might end before it begins. That can be a year and a half, two years of litigation before the litigation even really starts. of determining either jurisdiction or if it will get thrown out early on in the proceedings. So that lawsuit is a difficult road in California.
It would be difficult in New York, too, because New York has really strong laws protecting the media and reporters. So The plaintiff being the New York Times is a good vehicle to tell the story about Blake before they file a counterclaim against Blake Lively.
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Chapter 4: How did Heather McMahon's Hulu special perform?
Yeah. But then it's also a narrative that's been put on her and she obviously doesn't really want to talk about it.
It's a great movie.
It's a great movie.
It's a great movie.
And I think she slays. And they won Best Blockbuster new category at the Globes. So congrats.
Congrats to Wicked, The Substance, and Conclave.
And Gypsy Rose Blanchard, who gave birth to her baby.
Ah, Gypsy Rose. Congratulations, Gypsy. Congratulations. And Ken sent us a message shortly after Gypsy gave birth and gave Nali and I a little inside tea. We knew about it before y'all did. So we shared that moment with them and we feel very lucky to do so. But very, very happy congratulations to Gypsy and Ken.
On her one year anniversary of being released.
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Chapter 5: What controversy involves Jennifer Aydin and Jersey Mike’s?
Okay, well, I'm just saying these are things- Well, technically we have a boat.
We have a pontoon boat.
But it doesn't have a name.
No.
Where's your boat?
Wisconsin. Oh, hell yeah. Could we talk about Wisconsin? Yeah.
You like Wisconsin? I love Wisconsin.
You gonna come to the lake house? I would love to come to the lake house. And as an entrepreneur, as a real estate mogul, I think I need to start getting some land up north. I'm feeling Wisconsin and Michigan moment.
We have some perfect lake property we'd love to talk to you about.
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