Snow White and the Seven Controversies
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Today Explained, Sean Ramos from here with Nadira Goff, staff writer at Slate. Nadira, Disney's got a new movie coming out this week. Is everyone enchanted?
No. I think that there is a lot of confusion and a lot of controversy around Snow White. Magic mirror on the wall. Who is the fairest of them all? But yeah, it's safe to say that not everyone is enchanted.
This was my father's kingdom. A place of fairness. But the queen changed everything.
Now I have to ask, as a student of the Brothers Grimm, how many controversies are there?
Well, you're in luck. You're so lucky today is your lucky day because there happens to be about seven. Oh my goodness!
What did you think I was? Nothing. Ghost.
Snow White and the seven controversies coming up on the program today.
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Gather round, old and young, because it's time for Controversy Number One. So I would say that if I'm charting it, the first controversy actually stems from comments made by very popular, very beloved actor Peter Dinklage, who has a common form of dwarfism. And the original Snow White has been criticized for being ableist specifically for its portrayal of the seven dwarves and specifically for portraying them as childlike, right? And so when this movie was announced, There was a big question mark of what were they going to do about that element. And when Peter Dinklage was on Marc Maron's WTF podcast, they got to talking about it.
You're progressive in one way, but you're still making that fucking backward story of seven dwarves living in a cave. What the fuck are you doing, man?
And he called Disney out for hypocrisy, for patting themselves on the back for casting a Latina actress as their quote-unquote fairest princess, right? Disney responded very quickly, saying they were taking a different approach, that they were going to talk to the dwarfism community. Okay, like they're going to do some soul-searching around the portrayal of dwarves in the movie? I mean, it's very unclear, because what happened next was an alleged photo from the set leaked, which revealed that the dwarves had seemingly been replaced by actors in a diversity of genders, heights, and ethnicities, only one of whom had dwarfism. And so that made headlines. And then in the final product, they seem incredibly reminiscent to the original animated dwarves, just this time CGI animated. So I don't necessarily know what conversations were had, but it's definitely that element alone has taken its own journey.
Controversy number two. You're telling me, I'm telling you. Tell everyone in cities and towns they've turned Snow White into Snow Brown? I mean, some people online have probably called her that, considering that any time these days that there is a remake or an adaptation of popular beloved IP, especially where in which the main character, the titular character, is white, you will always have a contingent of more conservative traditionalists, let's say, who are going to push back against any sort of diverse castings. This surprised me because it's Snow White, whose skin was described as white as snow. I don't know what they're going to call Snow White. Is it still going to be Snow White? Critics, this choice represents yet another example of Hollywood prioritizing diversity quotas over staying faithful to the source material. And so people were always going to be angry at the idea of Zegler portraying Snow White, Zegler being half Colombian, half Polish. And she did receive some incredibly racist pushback from that online. The trolls are mad.
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