Five Dates, No Kiss. Now What?
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
Hello and welcome back to the U.S. Podcast. I'm Jordana Abraham.
And I am Jared Freed. It is so good to be back here with you, Jordana. How are you? What's going on? How are you feeling?
I'm feeling very irritated with Taylor Swift. Have air. Yes, I'm starting. Well, I went, I came, I come in through Grand Central and I went home yesterday through Madison Square Garden.
How did Taylor Swift’s MSG wedding disrupt New York commuters and spark debate?
Yeah.
And I mean, she must be getting married. They're doing a shit ton of like, there's like people doing shit there.
Right.
And they closed off multiple entrances into Penn Station. And I'm getting like annoyed. I'm like, why should I be inconvenienced by a wedding I'm not invited to?
This is what starts the uprising by us boars.
Seriously? I mean, apparently she is building a castle inside of MSG. Is that the claim? That is what I saw that the New York Post has posted.
From that angle, it's like when a protest gets in the way of the highway and you're like, whatever you're protesting, I'm against. You didn't help your cause. You're making me angrier at you. Whatever you're against, I'm on the other side. You have ruined my day getting to work. This didn't help you.
I just don't know what she was thinking. What are you thinking? Apparently they made the stairs to MSG a red carpet and then removed it the same day a few hours later because it went out too early. Which goes to show you, no matter how much money you have, your wedding is never going quite how you want it to go. They put out the fucking red carpet on MSG too early.
Right.
Blocking the stairs that I used to get into the Penn Station.
You know, like, when you, like, taste something and your, like, senses go off? Yeah. You're making, like, my brain, like, the synapses. Like, I'm having all these thoughts because I'm like, man, this is, like, a mirror to society, too. Right. Like, her wedding, like, when you go to a wedding with someone who's like, I don't care about, it's my fucking wedding. Yeah. You're like, wow, I guess this is how you see your friendships. This is how you see your family. This is how you see yourself. When Taylor does this, this is how she sees America.
That's what I'm saying. That's like, we are like... You know, we have a parasocial relationship with her. I'm like, you're revealing your true self and Travis. What the fuck are you two thinking?
Right.
Get married on an island away from all of us.
Right.
We don't need this.
And we brought this up last week.
So that you could show that you could make this huge, stupid, like, tacky wedding.
Totally.
Go to Disney World.
It's like, why do you need this? Why do you... And why do you care so little about... And it's like, I can bring you, like, some person that is the most... Like, what we could do is we could go to MSG and we could find, like, a business owner or, like, a guy who's like, I've had to work 30,000 hours this week thanks to Taylor. And we could show everyone, like, look what she's doing to people. Like, we could make her into this evil monster.
I mean, that's anyone who's getting married.
But it's like, your day getting ruined is like... she doesn't give a shit. Your day getting ruined bothers me more, in a way, because it's like the everyday Jim and Jo, she just is like, she'll give a million dollars to the guy that we show shivering because Taylor Swift's- Right, that guy's getting paid by her. He'll get something from her, she'll be like, oh, I gave his GoFundMe a billion, now will you shut up? And it's like, no, we have to change our commute. Give money to the city of New York. Yeah.
You're not even from here.
Right. You're not from here. This is your transplant.
This is a major holiday weekend.
People are using Penn Station to go out east. Well, and the thing is, she never has to answer to it.
No, who is she going to answer to?
Commenter? Well, there's no press conference. Like, it's not like she comes out at the end and is like, hey, everybody, it was a great wedding. Now I'll take questions from the reporters. And then there's no reporter from The Times being like, Taylor, you really seem to get in people's way.
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Chapters
5 chapters
1
What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
0:00–0:25
2
How did Taylor Swift’s MSG wedding disrupt New York commuters and spark debate?
0:25–7:04
3
Why do Jared and Jordana compare celebrity events to societal values and privilege?
7:04–27:53
4
What happened when Jared encountered Mike Tyson at the Comedy Cellar and why does it matter?
27:53–57:02
5
How do Jared and Jordana define and judge the concept of a 'hall pass'?
57:02–1:16:03