He Emotionally Cheated. Is That Enough for Divorce?

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Jordana Abraham 0:00
Hello and welcome back to the Friday Feels episode of the UF Podcast. I'm Jordana Abraham.
Jared Freed 0:08
And I am Jared Freed. It is so good to be back here with you, Jordana. How are you feeling on a Friday?
Jordana Abraham 0:17
I'm feeling good. You know, I was thinking about you when I was reading this book, and I'm trying to get the author on the podcast.
Jared Freed 0:23
Walking Red Flag? Out now?
Jordana Abraham 0:25
No, I have not read that one yet.
Jared Freed 0:27
Anywhere you want. Okay.
Jordana Abraham 0:27
I have not read that. That's next on my list. Okay. But I'm currently reading the book Strangers. Strangers. Have you seen this anywhere around the internet? It's like a buzz on the internet.
Jared Freed 0:38
Okay. So... Women things?
Yes.
Jared Freed 0:40
I'm not on the chick reads algorithm.
Jordana Abraham 0:44
You've seen it, right?
Jared Freed 0:45
I'd like Walking Red Flag to get on there.
Jordana Abraham 0:47
It's called Strangers. Basically, it's like what your greatest fear is on TikTok, this is to Gen X. It's like... This woman, she has, like, three kids with her husband. Her husband leaves her, like, abruptly.
Jared Freed 1:02
Okay.

What is the buzz around the viral memoir Strangers and why do breakup books hit harder than breakup TikToks?

Jordana Abraham 1:03
Is it a true story? Yeah, he is having an affair, and he leaves her abruptly. And he, like, a few days before their wedding, he, like, had asked to, like, change the prenup terms. And basically, like, I haven't finished it yet, but the idea is that, like, he basically, like, scams her out of whatever she's due in her... In the divorce settlement. In the divorce. And he doesn't really speak to his kids. And they're both very rich. They're from New York City. I think she's a Vanderbilt heir or something like that. And he's a finance... They have a house in Nantucket. They own an apartment in the city, and they have property everywhere. Basically, she uses her trusts to buy these properties, and he basically has been hiding money from her.
Jordana Abraham 1:50
So... And this book is basically, like, a tell-all of, like, the end of her marriage. Oh, wow. And he's, like, you can look him up. Like, she didn't use his real name, but, like, she uses her real name.
Jared Freed 2:02
So that's why it's so juicy is, like, this is a high-profile guy. Right. And she's basically, and the strangers is because I married a stranger.
Jordana Abraham 2:10
Essentially, yeah.
Jared Freed 2:11
Type of thing. And she's telling every.
Jordana Abraham 2:14
Her side, yes.
Jared Freed 2:14
Her side unfiltered.
Jordana Abraham 2:16
Yes, and the first page is basically, like, this is what happened as I remember it.
Jared Freed 2:21
And that's kind of all you have to say to absolve yourself. You can say there's three. You can say there's two sides to every story and then tell your story. And then people, you know, what do they say?
Jordana Abraham 2:33
The retraction is never as bad as the... As the, like, of course, or like ask for forgiveness.
Jared Freed 2:39
Right. But you never read about the retraction. The retraction is like at the end of the newspaper. Hey, last week we might have fucked up. Right.
Jordana Abraham 2:46
And she's a different name for him, but you know who.
Jared Freed 2:49
So Google, you can see it. And whatever amount she says that is in question, he can debate it, but we only listen to the most sensational side.
Jordana Abraham 2:59
Well, it's funny that you say that, because I think the New Yorker, some New York Times or the New Yorker or something did an investigation into their actual divorce, which is public, and apparently she was not left quite as destitute as she makes herself out to be, but no one really cares. Right.
Jared Freed 3:14
No one cares. I mean, the math is all that matters. You were left with less than you deserve. And that's it. No one really takes the side of financier guy who cheated on his wife.
Jordana Abraham 3:30
Right. Well, it's funny because it just feels like, again, like the Gen X version of your worst fear.
Jared Freed 3:35
Right. You get left. You end a relationship.
Jordana Abraham 3:39
She's not making TikToks. She's writing a book.
Jared Freed 3:42
Writing a book.
Jordana Abraham 3:43
And kind of embarrassing you through a version of these events.
Jared Freed 3:46
Well, this is kind of, I guess my, yeah. But the book, I don't know why a book hits different.
Jordana Abraham 3:54
There's a lot more details, more nuance.
Jared Freed 3:56
More nuance. Like a TikTok, reading the comments is almost as bad as the TikTok that gets made. And then when people go to look, and I think,
Jordana Abraham 4:05
I mean, there are definitely comments because this book got so big.
Jared Freed 4:08
Sure, but the civility, I think, of the age of a Gen X person is way more than, like, we talk about the shitting on reality TV.

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