Ep 999 | Jase Challenges Zach to a Boxing Match & Why Being Self-Righteous Isn’t Righteous
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What is the challenge between Jase and Zach?
I am unashamed. What about you? Looking for some boxing gloves. Welcome back to Unashamed. We've already begun. We were sparring just before we came on air, which is the way Jace likes it, because he's already said he likes to argue.
Well, when I heard the, maybe you shouldn't call our audience simple-minded. That's what Maddie said.
that's a good thing. I'm in that camp. I defended you.
I said, Matty, he always says like me, so he's not saying anybody's unlike him. And then I made the comment that Jace loves Acts 4, but he forgot about Acts 17.
He said, you know where I got that from was a little place called Acts. And you said, well, Acts 4, but you forgot about Acts 17. Yeah.
I said this before. It's not either or. It's both and. We've got some intellectuals.
I view Paul's dissertation in Acts 17 as pretty simple. He basically answered how we got here, what we're doing here, and what's next.
Well, in the boil it down version, you're correct. But in the way he gave it was pretty, pretty philosophical.
But we don't really know the full conversation. You know that he was, I mean, it probably was an interesting moment when he's up there on Mars Hill with the brightest minds in the world at the time. And then the apostle Paul walks in and just, I mean, really does levy one of the greatest defenses of the Christian faith ever, ever written. And it's clever because he observes all of their objects of worship and sees the one that says to an unknown God. And that's so clever the way he says, I'm going to tell you about that one, the way you don't know. Yeah. It was pretty smooth how he did it.
You know what he did when he saw it in my mind? What's that? He went, hmm.
that's what i would have done unknown let me let me explain this to you but hadn't you guys when you've been thinking about a lesson or some way you want to approach something or a conversation it's just like that you see something that's just and you go hmm and then all of a sudden off we off we're off and running because the idea sparks that's the way it usually works when you share i did that 92 times last night
92 times I went, hmm.
What were you doing last night?
What I did was I was reading where we're at in Colossians 2, and I thought all of a sudden he starts getting into the arguments that this group of people was inviting into their minds, which was basically something more than Jesus. I mean, you just think we've been talking about Colossians for what, weeks now?
Yep.
I mean, I don't know if I've ever noticed another letter with a focus of Jesus is it. I mean, we use the word supreme. He's the head of the body. I mean, just all these kind of things have really... I mean, they've moved me how he's saying the same thing. He's our wisdom. He's our knowledge. He's like a treasure box. It's like the Jesus treasure box. And then all of a sudden, because you know they're hearing these, what is verse 8 maybe say in your translation? Yeah. the deceptive philosophies based on human traditions and based on the principles of the world. So after he kind of goes through this, your participation with him, in baptism there in 1112 and this you've been given fullness you died with him i mean it's just like you're in him he then kind of takes on some of the little details about these philosophies yeah so so what i did was I thought, you know, how do you wrap this up?
Because I really don't like the idea of getting into all the philosophies as far as like, I mean, today, I don't think in modern America, being tempted to go into Judaism is not a big problem. Would you agree?
Yeah, you're probably not seeing a lot of people. Zach's hesitating.
How do we define self-righteousness?
Zach's hesitating on how to answer that. Now, I will say this before you comment. I do think that finding some system where it's involving your own righteousness or your own intelligence is a problem. But in their context, it was. I mean, we were fresh off of this crisis. Jesus being the fulfillment of the Jewish system. And they were having a hard time recognizing that, especially that he became a man. He humbled himself. But we, by our nature, we want to figure it out. We want to be in something. There's some knowledge out there that we miss that's by our own involvement somehow or another. We're going to figure this out. So to get back to my 92 times,
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