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#3410 RHOA S17E11: The Ring Didn’t Mean a Thing

15 Jun 2026

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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

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21.85 - 44.755 Ben Mandelker

Hello, and welcome to Watch What Crappens, a podcast about all that crap on Bravo that we just love to talk about. I'm Ben Mandelker, and joining me today is the one and only, the irrepressible, Ronnie Karam. Hi, Ronnie. How's it going? Well, hello, Benunes. How you doing? Oh, my God. I am great. I'm so happy to finally be home after a two and a half week odyssey to New York City.

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44.775 - 61.425 Ben Mandelker

I could not have thought of a better time to go than the past two weeks watching the Knicks ascend to win. Oh, my God. I'm sure you were the one who was first out there on the streets, Ronnie, cheering with all the fans, weren't you?

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61.878 - 78.427 Michael Rosenbaum

Well, you know what? When you're manifesting, the best way to manifest something is to not care. Because when you care, you're bringing kind of like that nervous, negative energy into it. Like, oh my God, I want it so bad. And I didn't care. So I was just like, wow, hope the Knicks win. And I was very nonchalant and it worked. So you're all welcome.

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78.447 - 98.601 Ben Mandelker

It did. yes thank you thank you ronnie for uh bringing your nonchalance to help the next acclaimed victory uh but anyway for real though it was a great time and uh we've said it before but we'll say it again thanks to everyone who came to our shows that was really special for us and um now we're back to real life but it was a really great two and a half weeks

98.581 - 116.561 Michael Rosenbaum

It was. Out there. So much fun. And so great being in the city for two weeks and getting kind of back into that lifestyle and seeing the city so lit and so excited. It was great. It was really cool. So, yeah, that was a really, really good time. I wanted to say happy birthday to Shannon out of a Canon Anthony.

117.402 - 117.923 Donald J. Trump

Yes.

117.943 - 143.951 Michael Rosenbaum

Triple 20, baby. Hit the 60. Long time listener, Facebook moderator, friend of ours. So that's pretty incredible. She won on the Kate Chastain. And captain Sandy Cruz really to party with the Bay area batches batches, which is really cool that all those people are still hanging out. I mean, it's been years, it's been decades, so it's really cool to see stuff like that.

144.011 - 171.149 Michael Rosenbaum

So happy birthday to you is sending all the love to the Bay area batches batches. And if you want to be on Patreon, which is where you get videos and bonus episodes, like our love Island bonus episodes. And you want ad-free listening or our free weekly blog that I write every week because it's weekly, making fun of these shows all over again. It's so fun how I can trigger people in writing again.

Chapter 2: What happens when Dennis returns the ring to Porsha?

400.754 - 408.245 Ben Mandelker

So there was like, for me and for every housewives fan, there was like an extra, um, extra like layer of euphoria happening in that moment.

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It was like, oh my God, the next you're about to win. You know, I'm a fan.

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417.181 - 446.622 Ben Mandelker

yeah she did not have her fangy present what what's are you are you blocking the gear like no cameras no fix no photos please i'm i'm upping my lighting a little bit oh okay So it's very exciting, but Real Housewives of Atlanta. So we start up, it's called, it's episode 11 from season 17, Shady Texts and Bigger Regrets. It's supposed to be Shady Texts and Bigger Regrets, whatever it is.

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447.483 - 453.634 Ben Mandelker

We are at Lake Bailey, Cynthia's house, and America's favorite, Shamia, she shows up.

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453.614 - 479.79 Ben Mandelker

and uh she's saying how wow she just still she just still hasn't even recovered from the party it was just so fun watching gerald turn whatever age he turned i mean it has taken it out of shamia but it was so so fun and she and gerald are still talking about it guys it was what an amazing party and if you didn't uh remember much about it it's because it was extremely boring because she didn't invite anybody that she didn't like

479.77 - 499.22 Michael Rosenbaum

Just to feature her husband, nobody cares about your husband, okay? So sorry. Nobody's watching the show for Gerald's birthday. I'm sorry. You need to do better things. So she's really excited. That's good. And Cynthia's like, yeah, you know, Shamia's usually a good time, but there wasn't anything fun about her house in Dallas.

500.221 - 519.481 Michael Rosenbaum

And because of my history, I want to just have this time with her to tell a goddamn girl. So she's like, so yeah, how'd you come up with the guest list? Because there were a lot of people not invited. And she says, well, last time I spoke with your Angela, it was just so, you know, you can't just comfort somebody's marriage and think that you can come back from that.

521.143 - 523.986 Michael Rosenbaum

Yeah, you brought up her marriage, no?

525.107 - 536.117 Ben Mandelker

Yeah, you did that first. So Cynthia's like, well, what about Drew? What's your issue with her? Shamia says, I don't have an issue with Drew. She just wouldn't stop bringing up Portia. And that's where I draw the line.

Chapter 3: How does K. Michelle's situation affect her relationship with Pinky?

871.674 - 888.992 Ben Mandelker

He would talk about it when the show was over. And he'd be like, well, what's amazing is, is he going mad or is he not going mad? And every week you have to wonder. I'm like, every week I really don't care. I'm like, just add some AC, get some new wiring, and then go back to the island where your wife's sister is.

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888.972 - 911.389 Michael Rosenbaum

Stop just dreaming of Joanna Gaines in every room and just put up the shiplap. We know you're going to put up the shiplap. Just do it, okay? Please. So anyway, sorry for everybody. We just confused, but you know, it is a part of our life. So yeah. So Shamia, Cynthia tries to talk some sense into Shamia about like opening your heart to other people. And Shamia is not having it.

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911.509 - 936.623 Michael Rosenbaum

She's like, no, I won't. And she's like, I have nothing to apologize for because they've also lit me up. So Cynthia's like, okay, whatever. So they hug. It's time for a commercial. It's time for a crappin's commercial. We go to Pink Lotus, and this is K. Michelle and Pinky for a meeting. And Pinky's like, oh, my gosh, $9,000 came out of my account this morning.

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936.683 - 943.696 Michael Rosenbaum

I couldn't even identify what it was. It turns out it was food for the restaurant. God, so much money coming in and out. I just don't know.

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944.577 - 965.402 Ben Mandelker

So tough being a boss. by the way i'm i'm still sort of on the name of this place pink lotus it's just like guys let's capitalize off the success the success of white lotus we'll call it pink lotus and we'll make sure pinky shoots a scene here to justify the name okay go

965.956 - 984.454 Ben Mandelker

so uh they're celebrating though pinky is celebrating something today and k michelle says what are you celebrating and pinky says just life because there's so much that's good i mean nine thousand dollars less that's good but there's still so much that's good and so they toast because she's franchising um

984.721 - 1009.193 Ben Mandelker

slutty vegan and Pinky's saying how there's never been a black woman to franchise a vegan brand um so that's a very exciting thing and she says I think God wants me to go through all that bad stuff because you know good things are happening back to back now are they what are the good things that are happening you just lost nine thousand dollars when you went to the bathroom

1009.375 - 1028.011 Michael Rosenbaum

I don't know. Because she does change it up a lot. Like one minute she's like, I'm rich. I piss $90,000. Who gives a shit? $90,000 is nothing to me. I wipe my ass with that. And the next day she's like, I owe $4 million. And the next day she's like, my husband's taking care of it, but I can't. Then she's like, I can't let my husband take care of it. I don't know.

1028.031 - 1039.281 Michael Rosenbaum

She's going, she's vacillating a lot between like bossy and oh my God. Yeah. It's all over. So I'm not really sure what to believe. I would imagine that that's normal in this situation.

Chapter 4: What drama unfolds at the skate party?

1208.842 - 1232.846 Ben Mandelker

I wonder that about Rula on... real house people say that people say that about Corbin on Love Island they're like is he AI yeah so slowly um so uh anyway so they're at the Shamia brought her mom to the club And K. Michelle says, we're literally like this. And she's has like, it's like head to head.

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1232.866 - 1245.337 Ben Mandelker

Like, she says that, I think, was she talking, she says her mom, Shamia's mom has her, is like holding her hand, is holding K. Michelle's hand. And Pinky's like, I'm not praying in the club.

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1245.738 - 1258.45 Ronnie Karam

And K. Michelle says, basically, it went on for over an hour. And, you know, you say to me, oh, and I just hope you'll be loyal to me. I hope you'll be my friend because none of my friends want to be your friend. That's... So when I go to the car, I'm like, what did the grandpa then?

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1258.47 - 1271.967 Ben Mandelker

At first, when she said this, I thought she said the mom was saying this. I thought the mom was telling her, I hope you'll be my friend because no one wants to be my – like no one wants to be your friend, so be my friend. But then afterwards, I realized it must have been Shamia who was saying this to K. Michelle.

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1272.768 - 1289.622 Michael Rosenbaum

Yeah, which basically kind of proves everybody who's saying that Shamia is twisting all of this stuff and making K. Michelle kooky. Is correct. This is what Shamia has been doing. And finally, K. Michelle is telling us. Yeah, she's sitting there like, nobody wants me to be friends with you, which is why she thinks nobody likes her.

1289.782 - 1309.164 Michael Rosenbaum

So, yes, she is being loaded up by Shamia and then sent out to argue with everybody. It is shitty. And so she's like, you know, I've got Shamia's back more than anything. But for you to keep saying to me, nobody in Atlanta wants me to be your friend. I mean, I don't want to hear about no goddamn candy-coated nights. I didn't really get that.

1310.025 - 1317.636 Michael Rosenbaum

So was she saying that Candy was one of the people who said that? That Candy doesn't like her? I don't know. I don't know. But I love that Candy's still being brought into it.

1318.717 - 1333.497 Ben Mandelker

Yeah. I mean, sometimes K. Michelle makes a reference to something that I'm like, what is she talking about? Because, you know, she picks up references that aren't there. So then she makes references that aren't there, too. So she's basically offended by this. Because Shamia is trying to...

1333.78 - 1352.278 Michael Rosenbaum

advocate for herself by saying look how good i am to you i'm the only one that wants to be your friend which is so mean to k michelle and kyle richards everybody thinks that everybody says that yeah everybody's saying i'm the only one here for you everybody else hates you you know

Chapter 5: How does Portia react to Dennis's unexpected visit?

1614.635 - 1616.077 Michael Rosenbaum

It sounds like Wes, but Walter.

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1616.979 - 1645.465 Ben Mandelker

Yeah. He has a W. I knew he had a W there. Walter, her hired YouTube actor. yeah i don't know so like i hate to be negative about it i just feel like i feel like portia is such an iconic cast member and she's such a great like hall of fame real housewife but i do feel like she does self-produce so much of her personal stuff that i just really i

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1645.445 - 1669.09 Ben Mandelker

have a hard time with it like i think she's great in a group in group events but like when the action settles down and she's in her living living room with her mom and her sister and a guy comes over a dentist i'm always like all right everyone time to get a snack yeah um so he's talking about love languages i don't even know why and he's like yours yours is to feel safe and she goes

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1669.525 - 1690.673 Michael Rosenbaum

yeah it's like um it's community uh safety yeah safety he's like you want to feel protected she's like wow communication and he's like communication yours is communication she's like you don't think i'm good at communication he's like you don't have a doorbell that works it's like literally a communication block

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1691.902 - 1694.225 Ronnie Karam

So then she's like, so remember I was at Culture Con?

1694.846 - 1703.819 Ben Mandelker

And we see footage of the famous moment where Portia announced to the world that she's talking to two different people. He is nice and she is nice.

1704.7 - 1716.998 Ronnie Karam

So, and everyone was like, oh my God, oh my God. So she says, I was wrong. She tells us, I was wrong. I was wrong. No, in my odd mind, I thought I was giving him a shout out, but it just, I guess it wasn't like a shout out.

1717.315 - 1735.965 Ben Mandelker

in her mind she's thinking wasn't it nice that i included you in the discussion of people that i'm interested in like that you made it to the final two you made it to the season finale of the the porsche lorette like aren't you excited and he's kind of like uh i'm assuming what his reaction was sort of like wait there's someone else in the picture what's going on

1736.924 - 1762.193 Michael Rosenbaum

yeah and he does the guy thing because he probably watches love island so he's learned boy talk my voice is really gone after the past couple of weeks but he's like yes listen i hear you and everything you're saying is valid and part of being safe and a safe space to you is letting you know that you're valid Oh, for Christ's sake. Just tell her you don't want her dating two people. I would.

Chapter 6: What are the key themes of friendship and loyalty in this episode?

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Perry. If it was Ross from Frasier, this would be a great scandal. All right. Let's just have it be Perry Gilpin. So it's Perry Gilpin. Okay.

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2058.173 - 2081.464 Michael Rosenbaum

perry gilpin's also got like some acting resume online where she's trying to get work in the industry you know whatever which you know that's fine but just to give some background so kelly's kid is parking in the fire zone i guess consistently she just keeps parking in the fire lane and then the hoa lady perry is like you cannot park in the parking lane and she just keeps doing it anyway

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2081.647 - 2106.742 Michael Rosenbaum

So finally, Sherry just booted her car. She kept calling and getting the car booted. Now, Kelly is taking this and saying, this woman is stalking me and my children. She's no, your child is parking in the parking in the fire lane. Okay. Yeah. and that's not okay either. Now the lady booting it. Sure. That's yes. Going a little too far. So Kelly goes over there and gets into it with this lady.

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2106.962 - 2127.766 Michael Rosenbaum

She says the lady physically assaulted her, but the lady is saying that she came onto her property when it wasn't allowed and she got a protective order against her. So she might have to move. I don't, if you have a protective order against you, you can't be within a certain amount of feet within somebody. So That's everything I read, but it's a damn mess over there.

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2127.786 - 2146.956 Michael Rosenbaum

And the way that Kelly is telling it is, she's been harassing me. She's stalking me. She's stalking Chloe. She's booting her car. I had to call the police. It just became out of control because I protect my babies. Well, you should also worry about the houses that want to be protected from being on fire and have your child stop parking in the parking lane.

2147.746 - 2160.186 Ben Mandelker

See, I knew you were going to get the real story. That's why I didn't even bother. I was like, I'm not looking this up. Ronnie's going to tell me everything. He's going to know everything. He's going to have the whole thing. All I do know is that you can't spell R-H-O-A without H-O-A.

2160.486 - 2177.964 Michael Rosenbaum

So it's appropriate that we finally had an H-O-A moment. It's a full circle moment. I will say this. It puts me in an awkward position because Kelly makes me crazy on this show, but I don't dislike Kelly. I mean, I like her. I think she seems like a decent person. You know, she could do better on the show, but I like her and her kids seem sweet.

2178.405 - 2196.326 Michael Rosenbaum

So what are you going to side with the HOA lady who you know is a fucking monster? So I don't want to side with her. But the main issue is parking in the fire lane, which we all know is annoying. Anybody who has street parking and then there's one person who's just like entitled to do whatever they want or they'll like park in front of the full driveway so that the people have to go.

2196.827 - 2203.875 Michael Rosenbaum

They have to go find you the person to move, you know, those fucking entitled people. And so I'm like, great. They got their car booted.

Chapter 7: How does the episode address issues of mental health and support?

2406.858 - 2419.234 Ben Mandelker

Not that it has any bearing on anything. And if they did shoot that scene in this kitchen, it literally changes nothing. But I just want to know. I just want to know. I want to know where everyone's house is.

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2419.585 - 2440.243 Michael Rosenbaum

Yeah. So Shamia has food sitting out and stuff like that for her. And she says this is one of her very first investment properties that she bought within her marriage. And, of course, Kelly's going to get to come because she's a good friend. And now she can never turn against Shamia, unlike everybody else on this show. Yeah.

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2440.848 - 2470.787 Ben Mandelker

So anyway, now we go to Stanton Park where Angela and her brother Lawrence are there. And also Angela's daughter is Amari. I think her name is. I forget. Amari. Amari. She goes and plays. And so Angela's saying that she and her brother are very close. And, you know, her mom had recently passed. And so they now have a really sad scene where they talk about losing their mom and grief.

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2471.628 - 2496.268 Michael Rosenbaum

Yeah. So we're not going to make fun of that. And so then we go to well, basically, we find out that none of the siblings even know that Amari got married. So, yeah, she's like, well, I'm going to leave it up to them to tell. So then we go to the parks group, attorneys and counselors at law. And Kelly is meeting up with Phaedra.

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2497.075 - 2516.417 Ben Mandelker

And so it's kind of fun to see Phaedra back in like lawyer mode because I feel like she's been in so many other modes since we last saw her practicing law. I mean, I believe her last occupation we saw was her Reiki healing and blowing into a recorder. So now she's back in like law mode.

2516.92 - 2538.27 Ben Mandelker

and uh so kelly comes in and kelly's like you know phaedra i need a miracle on top of miracles you know everything is in red i'm in world war three when going through divorce where the other partner is not financially helping you with a parent it just becomes a burden phaedra's like well i went ahead and filed the emergency ex parte filing clarifying your divorce settlement

2538.25 - 2547.521 Ben Mandelker

But I might want to file another motion for child support. And I was also thinking of going down to the courthouse and doing a Reiki healing session on the judge. I don't know. Just throwing that out there.

2548.762 - 2550.604 Michael Rosenbaum

She's like, here's what I was thinking of filing.

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A motion called... Could you please not tell me in Peter and the Wolf?

Chapter 8: What insights do Montel Jordan and Kristen Jordan provide during counseling?

2942.534 - 2943.375 Michael Rosenbaum

Got to come together.

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2943.395 - 2966.335 Ben Mandelker

I just really, it's like, well, you know, Dom and I have been going through some really tough times. And we're pushing through it, though, guys. And I think with some good counseling, I think we're getting on the other end of it. It's like, oh, who is your counselor? Kathy Dennis. Kathy Dennis. She just keeps singing Too Many Walls over and over again. And finally we're like, Too Many Walls.

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2968.697 - 2987.601 Ben Mandelker

She's on to something. i just don't know how i'd be able to like tell my tell friends with a straight face like like i'm seeing montel jordan and he may be a hundred percent qualified i just don't know i could be like who is your counselor montel jordan it's just such a funny concept to me

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2988.02 - 2998.815 Ben Mandelker

But then I think I'm also like a little jealous because also it would be really cool to be like, yeah, guys, I got counts with Montel Jordan. I'll see you in about 10 minutes. 10 minutes.

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2998.995 - 3000.797 Michael Rosenbaum

That's short. It's like the length of a pop song.

3001.678 - 3008.087 Ben Mandelker

Well, I'm 50 minutes into my session and I'm texting people. So it was a full session, guys.

3008.557 - 3030.649 Michael Rosenbaum

so she's talking about how um this couple shares stuff with them they share stuff with this couple i don't know about that i don't want to hear about my therapist's life i want them to hear about my life i don't want them to share with me unless it's gum like if they have gum in their purse then i'm good i also just i i don't know i'm of the mindset that i

3031.237 - 3059.757 Ben Mandelker

i like a therapist who has done the schooling and like is up on all the all the academic principles and this is just a choice thing because people go to different people for different help but i don't i've never been like a fan of like so here's a couple and they'll tell you how to be a couple also it's like when heather and terry dubrow did it Or wasn't it? Married to Medicine was happening.

3060.058 - 3076.279 Ben Mandelker

Well, they do it every week, every season with a couple's trip. But for a while they had like a couple's, they had like a couple's moment, right? Where they would all like share with each other, like check-ins. I mean, support group is one thing, but I don't know. I just want someone who's, who like under, like,

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