What No One Tells You About Becoming A Mother

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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson 25 min 5 speakers 8 chapters transcribed 4 months ago
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What is the main topic discussed in this episode?

Unknown 0:00
Welcome to We're Talking.

How did Cher balance motherhood with her popstar career?

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In this episode, we dive deep into the challenges and triumphs of motherhood with pop star Cher Lloyd, reality star Georgia Kusulu, and podcaster Mel Robbins. Together, they share their personal journeys of balancing career dreams, self-doubt, and the mental load that comes with being a mother.

What are the signs and symptoms of postnatal depression?

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This week, we're talking motherhood.
Paul C. Brunson 0:35
How do you think that having children now, and you have this wonderful partner, how does that now impact the next phase of your career?
Georgia Kousoulou 0:47
I'm stressed out.

Why is it important to normalize conversations about postnatal depression?

Georgia Kousoulou 0:50
All I keep thinking is, how am I going to do this? Like, honestly, if it's just me and you talking?

How did filming a TV show impact Georgia's experience with motherhood?

Georgia Kousoulou 0:57
Yeah. How am I going to do this?

What emotional challenges did Mel face in her marriage after becoming a mother?

Georgia Kousoulou 1:00
Because the mental load already for a mother

What advice does Mel give to parents pursuing their dreams?

Georgia Kousoulou 1:04
is just it's through the roof the lists the constant lists the being needed all of the time by two small children but then at the same time i still have to chase my dream i have to because also my children need to see me

How can new mothers cope with feelings of loneliness and identity loss?

Georgia Kousoulou 1:25
Fulfill my dreams. Yes. That's important. Two girls watching their mother succeed. Yes.
Paul C. Brunson 1:34
But I would argue that the pursuit of your dream is succeeding in your dream.
Georgia Kousoulou 1:42
Yeah. Yeah.
Paul C. Brunson 1:43
You know, it's not the destination. It's the journey.
Georgia Kousoulou 1:46
It is.
Paul C. Brunson 1:47
And just those two little girls watching their mom on the journey. That's the win.
Georgia Kousoulou 1:53
That's the win. That truly is. And the fact that if you would have asked me this question a year ago when I had a newborn, I would have said, I can't do it. I can't do any of this anymore. I just need to be at home with my children. I was mentally not in a good place. And I don't think I would have ever had an ounce of confidence in myself to ever step back out on a stage.
Paul C. Brunson 2:23
What was it about a year ago that put you in that space?
Georgia Kousoulou 2:27
So after I had my youngest daughter, Eliza, I'd heard about postnatal depression before, but I didn't understand what it meant for someone to go through it. So what I first started experiencing was real loneliness, but also I doubted myself in everything that I was doing. And I had this overwhelming fear that something was going to happen to my baby. and it started affecting my mental health severely. I had the shakes all the time. I felt sick all the time. I couldn't sleep, I couldn't eat. It was the worst time of my life when it was supposed to be the happiness. I can't believe I made it through that time. It was awful. I even had situations where I'd be walking down the street with my baby in the pram and I had visions of cars driving into her.
Georgia Kousoulou 3:46
They came out of nowhere. Postnatal depression shook me to my core. And to be honest, it's made me feel like I can't imagine having more children. I can't go through that again. Awful.
Paul C. Brunson 4:05
This is something that is not talked about enough. No. How did you come out the other side?
Georgia Kousoulou 4:14
It took me a really long time. I felt like I didn't want to leave the house. I didn't know who I was anymore, to be honest. I really didn't. I completely lost myself. And that's why when you asked me what I was proud of, I say being a mother, because even though that was the hardest time of my life, My children were always safe. I protected them. And they always came first, even though my mental health took the biggest blow ever. And I think the only way out of it was one time I needed time. I put too much pressure on myself after I had my baby. The pressure to bounce back. which I think is ridiculous. Women do not need to bounce back after pregnancy. That should not be a thing. And I hate that that's pushed onto women.
Georgia Kousoulou 5:20
What I feel new mothers need to do is to give themselves a break. Take time for you. And I wish someone could have told me that it was gonna be all right and that being a mother is hard, it's really hard, but there is a light at the end of the tunnel. And whether that be picking up the phone and calling your GP, call your GP, tell them that you need help and they will help you. I did it, they helped me. And now I'm in such a better mental state.
Paul C. Brunson 6:14
Yeah. You know, what you just said is profound because we have to remember, especially in traumatic experiences, we feel like we're alone in it. We have to understand that we are never alone and help is a call away.

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