Alex O'Connor

It will help with set management.

You know, you could be someone who designs sets for podcasts, a job that didn't even exist really when I was at school.

And now it's a very specific, very niche thing that people are after.

But the most important thing is the passion.

It would always really upset me when a university, there were people...

who would struggle a lot with the work and then also think, and I'm not even sure if I should be doing this.

I don't know if this was the right subject.

That's just, that's nihilism, man.

Suffering is one thing.

Being aware that your suffering is kind of meaningless.

That's what nihilism is.

And that's what can be brought out if you study something you're not passionate about.

And then it gets hard because you've got this double whammy of the meaninglessness plus the difficulty.

You know, if someone studies theology or philosophy, it's famously a very unemployable job.

What are you going to do except be a priest or a YouTuber?

I can deal with the fact that, like, what's this all for?

Is this going anywhere?

Is this going to get me a job?

Because I've got this passion for it, because I just love it for its own sake.

Maybe you're studying to be a doctor.