Dave Evans

This is hard.

Professors don't like to boil their things down to something so simple that anybody can do it.

Exactly.

Those Mark Twain's, if I had more time, I'd have written a shorter letter.

The circular pattern, I'm telling stuff, I'm telling my story.

People say, that's very interesting.

I've thought about talking to so-and-so or this, trying this or this.

And it just keeps going.

You know, your curiosity leads to more engagement, which leads to more prototypes, which leads to more stories.

Once you get that flywheel running.

You know, it runs by itself.

And it feels like, hey, I'm making progress.

I'm going somewhere.

I'm not exactly sure where it is, but I'm pretty sure I'm going in the right direction.

Yeah.

You deserve it.

My wish for folks is just try something, try something really small and see if you can find that little piece of joy or that just like a pointer towards something that wakes you up.

And we know you can do it.

Yeah, we really appreciate the opportunity.

It was a great conversation.