David Peterson

That really strikes a nerve with me because loyalty to me is loyalty in business.

is to me a fallacy.

Loyalty is we are in a mutually beneficial relationship and that's why we're together, right?

And this idea that because you've been here this long.

Yeah, tenure doesn't mean loyalty.

Absolutely nothing.

Loyalty is you are, you have common, we have common interests and we're both working together to get there.

And just because you've been here this long, if your performance starts to drop, there's somebody that's hungry that really wants this.

And I'm not going to pass that person up because you've been here for a while.

Well, if you get the right people in there, then that's, you're going to learn just as much.

Absolutely.

I couldn't even quantify what COVID did for my career, but I think it was a double-edged sword.

So COVID...

Everybody was captive in their homes.

They're staring at the same four walls.

And our industry is the savior for that because if you're going to be spending more time at home, we can make that space nicer for you or more accessible for you or whatever you need it to be.

Somebody in our industry can help you with that.

So I think it was a blessing and a curse.

I think for our industry, again, to your point, at the time...

I'm a hero, right?