Dr. Chantelle Thomas
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I think so.
And that kind of work is brilliant preparation work for then the psychedelic therapy, which is like, I don't care if you're comfortable or not, you're going in, right?
So depending on the compound, right?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, let's talk about those protective edges and why they exist and what would you need to feel differently inside in order to feel ready to go there, right?
Back to that idea of resourcing from within.
Right.
You know, these models around trauma have always, a lot of them have been hinged on this idea that people are not courageous enough or brave enough.
Right.
force them towards the most difficult thing.
Well, you know what we learned when we did resource-based trauma models is when you help people feel safe enough inside, they would more spontaneously move towards the difficult thing because they felt like they could handle it.
That is such a different model than, oh, you have to be brave or more courageous or, you know, there's something diminutive in that framework that feels a little less, you
There's a less of a emphasis on honoring why the protective reflex is so needed to survive, you know?
And so how can we work with that differently as we're looking towards working with these compounds that shake those things up, that disrupt our protective structures in very interesting and unpredictable ways?
That's why we saved it for last.
But yes, I think you had mentioned earlier that it's an alkaloid that's derived from a shrub found in Central Africa.
It's got a hundreds of year history of being used in spiritual practices with the Bwiti.
Again, please do some research on that and look that up on your own because I think that's incredibly important.
And it's a different compound from something like psilocybin, for example, because it actually interacts with lots of different neurotransmitters beyond serotonin.
It actually has glutamatergic action, dopamatergic action, so working with dopamine, glutamate, and also opiate receptor sites.
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