Dr. Giulia Enders

They can just do their thing.

You know, there'll be a lot of people listening who, you know, really struggle with sleep.

And one of the challenges is that, you know, as you're going towards bed, you're actually really thinking about it.

It's become this almost like this mountain you've got to climb.

And that therefore makes it hard to get the thing.

And I guess I always worry that listening to the, you know, something like this, like, oh, but now I know it's even more important to get to sleep.

And actually, potentially, you know, we're increasing anxiety about it.

Well, yes, and I think in a way this is an indicator for how estranged the conscious parts and the outside world-dealing parts of our thinking and brain have become to the more bodily, earthy parts of our brain.

Because there are different parts.

And how estranged our whole perception of life and world and ourselves has become to

Are these parts of ourselves that are just not connected to the outside world, that are not relying on getting up at six, but they're actually just worrying about how's the cell doing there and how are the cells doing there?

And like really the foundation of being alive and these areas that run very differently and that don't have to do with, you know, if you're able to perform at work or something.

And sometimes it becomes even hard for people to imagine that there's this part of ourselves that is not about performing.

And that is not about fulfilling and not about to-do lists.

And it seems like those two parts of ourselves have really a hard time getting along nowadays.

It's really interesting.

I think in a world before electric light and phones basically got dark,

It got really boring.

There's nothing to do.

And I think, you know, you don't have that stimulation.